Of course we been over all of this before about traffic and profit. I will explain my vague answer to Sandy. Some folks are trying to MINE information about potential business, believed or imaginary in order to sink NWP or NCRA. So there are certain things I won't comment on especially from someone just driving by with the name of SANDY. If I knew who she was, who she represents, I might be more inclined to answer, so in this case, if divert to you experts to answer the question, and as always, you have done a fine job!