Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay)
Author: mook
Date: 05-27-2008 - 18:41

Well, Coos Bay's RR does actually need a rebuild, but it's been idle for less time than NWP and is a lot shorter. Problem is, with both of them, that they don't feed directly into an E-W mainline very well. Coos Bay goes to Eugene, then what? Move traffic thru Portland? Eureka via NWP is an extra couple of days to Fairfield compared to bringing it in thru Oakland. OAK and barge transfer to Stockton/Sacto for containers (or direct Sac/Stockton for bulk product) would be competitive. Yes, I think the Eureka port could be improved, and NWP has some (if not great) potential for moving non-time-sensitive traffic, but it's more likely that any containers would be trucked over the mountains or used locally.

Oh yes: OAK and LA-area ports are having BIG problems related to air quality. Do you think Eureka-area folk are ignorant of the effect of more than a few ships calling there? Let alone the RR diesel emissions (which can be controlled at some significant cost).



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Bit 05-27-2008 - 11:18
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) JBM 05-27-2008 - 11:39
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Jon 05-27-2008 - 14:12
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Mike Pechner 05-27-2008 - 14:27
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) H.T.M 05-27-2008 - 17:31
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) mook 05-27-2008 - 18:41
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) pat 05-29-2008 - 16:00
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Policespeeder 05-30-2008 - 06:01
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) paul 05-30-2008 - 12:24
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Oops 05-30-2008 - 13:05
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Policespeeder 05-30-2008 - 19:24
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) H.Todd Messinger 05-28-2008 - 01:16
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Alfred Doten 05-28-2008 - 07:57
  Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 Bit 05-28-2008 - 10:55
  Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 Treun 05-28-2008 - 11:04
  Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 Little Lake Listener 05-28-2008 - 15:08
  Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 mook 05-28-2008 - 18:45
  Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 Little Lake Listener 05-28-2008 - 20:59
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Joel Manly 05-28-2008 - 13:53
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Tony 05-28-2008 - 16:20
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) jdm 05-28-2008 - 16:47
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Rich Hunn 05-28-2008 - 20:01
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Alfred Doten 05-29-2008 - 09:07
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Jon 05-29-2008 - 13:52
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Rich Hunn 05-29-2008 - 16:35
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) bugged 05-29-2008 - 21:59
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Alfred Doten 05-30-2008 - 11:13
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton David Maxwell 05-30-2008 - 11:37
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Mike Pechner 05-30-2008 - 12:18
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Mitsy, ESQ 05-30-2008 - 23:23
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Little Lake Listener 05-31-2008 - 11:21
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Mitsy, ESQ 06-01-2008 - 09:25
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Little Lake Listener 06-01-2008 - 10:35
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton mo'money 06-01-2008 - 15:32
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Little Lake Listener 06-02-2008 - 00:00
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton mo'money 06-02-2008 - 00:20
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Mitsy, ESQ 06-02-2008 - 09:07
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton mo'money 06-02-2008 - 09:20
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton jdm 05-30-2008 - 12:33
  Re: Container Port Fever S.L. Murray 05-30-2008 - 14:34
  Re: Container Port Fever Rich Hunn 05-31-2008 - 18:09


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