Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008
Author: mook
Date: 05-28-2008 - 18:45

Privately funded or not, anything that requires a permit from a state or local agency is subject to CEQA and a host of other state environmental laws. Resurrecting NWP for real (as a useful RR not just a couple streaks of rust with an occasional 10mph train) is subject to many and possibly conflicting permit requirements from state and local agencies possibly leading to fights over who's in charge. And you can't tell me with a straight face that everything can be done in the original right of way - some of it doesn't even exist any more (in the river) and there are lots of places where a for-real operator will want to ... um ... straighten things out or really stabilize a hillside. Think Novato on steroids even if NCRA gets out of the picture.

Privately funded or not, anything that requires a permit, approval, or funding from a federal agency is subject to NEPA. Host of other federal environmental laws apply too. Lots of federal involvement with things affecting water, waterfront, federal lands, tribes, etc. not to mention FRA and STB.

Bottom line: anybody resurrecting and actually improving NWP especially in the Eel canyon better have lots of money (let's talk billion$ by the time something moves for pay) and time for lawyers engineers and environmental people before even starting to talk construction. That goes for port proponents too.



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  Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Bit 05-27-2008 - 11:18
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) JBM 05-27-2008 - 11:39
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Jon 05-27-2008 - 14:12
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Mike Pechner 05-27-2008 - 14:27
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) H.T.M 05-27-2008 - 17:31
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) mook 05-27-2008 - 18:41
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) pat 05-29-2008 - 16:00
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Policespeeder 05-30-2008 - 06:01
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) paul 05-30-2008 - 12:24
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Oops 05-30-2008 - 13:05
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Policespeeder 05-30-2008 - 19:24
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) H.Todd Messinger 05-28-2008 - 01:16
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Alfred Doten 05-28-2008 - 07:57
  Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 Bit 05-28-2008 - 10:55
  Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 Treun 05-28-2008 - 11:04
  Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 Little Lake Listener 05-28-2008 - 15:08
  Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 mook 05-28-2008 - 18:45
  Re: Moneymen weave new port-rail vision – May 27, 2008 Little Lake Listener 05-28-2008 - 20:59
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Joel Manly 05-28-2008 - 13:53
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Tony 05-28-2008 - 16:20
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) jdm 05-28-2008 - 16:47
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Rich Hunn 05-28-2008 - 20:01
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Alfred Doten 05-29-2008 - 09:07
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Jon 05-29-2008 - 13:52
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Rich Hunn 05-29-2008 - 16:35
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) bugged 05-29-2008 - 21:59
  Re: Goldman Sachs looks to pitch port-rail investment (Humboldt Bay) Alfred Doten 05-30-2008 - 11:13
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton David Maxwell 05-30-2008 - 11:37
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Mike Pechner 05-30-2008 - 12:18
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Mitsy, ESQ 05-30-2008 - 23:23
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Little Lake Listener 05-31-2008 - 11:21
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Mitsy, ESQ 06-01-2008 - 09:25
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Little Lake Listener 06-01-2008 - 10:35
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton mo'money 06-01-2008 - 15:32
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Little Lake Listener 06-02-2008 - 00:00
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton mo'money 06-02-2008 - 00:20
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton Mitsy, ESQ 06-02-2008 - 09:07
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton mo'money 06-02-2008 - 09:20
  Re: Goldman Sachs......Port of Stockton jdm 05-30-2008 - 12:33
  Re: Container Port Fever S.L. Murray 05-30-2008 - 14:34
  Re: Container Port Fever Rich Hunn 05-31-2008 - 18:09


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