Re: More Problems in the PNW
Author: Bruce Butler
Date: 03-25-2017 - 14:53

Hindsight is always 20-20! Shoulda Woulda Coulda!

If they still had the SP&S, through westbound trains that didn't need to be yarded at Pasco could go around the loop behind the roundhouse, over the Columbia River bridge and then either to the ex NP line via Yakima and over Stampede pass or on down the river on the SP&S. No need to even stop other than to change crews.

It was really a stupid move to let the Frisco gang of terror loose the SP&S! Bob Downing must be spinning in his grave. He championed retaining the SP&S but they wouldn't listen!!!

The other stupid thing they did was to loose the MILW crossing of the Cascade mountains via the Snoqualmie pass tunnel. Lower elevation and a much better tunnel! BN actually owned it from 1980 to about 1986 before tearing it up. I suspect that they could have connected the west end to the ex NP line (Bagley Jct - Selleck area to Kanaskat - Palmer area??) bypassing the Renton street running, for a lot less than they spent re-opening the ex NP Stampede pass line.

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q632/np560/MILW/WA%20st%20NP%201952%20%20map%20-%20NP-MILW%20w-side%20connection_zpszgavsyaj.jpg

This map, extracted from a 1952 NP map of Washington state railroads. Notice that both the NP(shown in RED) and the MILW (shown in ORANGE) had branches between these two points. If topography wasn't compatible for a mainline connection, Landsburg - Ravensdale, or even the old Pacific Coast ROW from Maple Valley might have been possibles.

I don't have any hard $$$ facts to back any of this up, so don't bother throwing stones.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  More Problems in the PNW Bruce Kelly 03-24-2017 - 19:53
  Re: More Problems in the PNW bunkcarspecialist 03-24-2017 - 23:52
  Re: More Problems in the PNW GN Goat 03-25-2017 - 01:07
  Re: More Problems in the PNW Martin Burwash 03-25-2017 - 07:56
  Re: More Problems in the PNW Hoghead 1 03-25-2017 - 08:01
  Re: More Problems in the PNW Pdxrailtransit 03-25-2017 - 10:08
  Re: More Problems in the PNW Bruce Butler 03-25-2017 - 14:53
  Re: More Problems in the PNW LWBaxter 03-25-2017 - 16:32
  Re: More Problems in the PNW BN Oly 03-25-2017 - 17:44
  Re: More Problems in the PNW Pdxrailtransit 03-25-2017 - 18:07
  Re: More Problems in the PNW George Andrews 03-25-2017 - 20:51
  Re: More Problems in the PNW bunkcarspecial 03-26-2017 - 05:45
  Re: More Problems in the PNW Graham Buxton 03-26-2017 - 08:09
  Re: More Problems in the PNW bunkcarspecialist 03-28-2017 - 06:10
  Re: More Problems in the PNW Erik H. 03-26-2017 - 20:22
  Re: More Problems in the PNW BN Oly 03-26-2017 - 21:44
  Re: More Problems in the PNW David Smith 03-27-2017 - 19:00


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