SP5103,

Yes, but where (National City or San Diego) did Santa Fe serviced it's steam engines and later, it's diesel engines?

I believe I read that California Southern had shops in National City (roundhouse)? But what about later dates? Also read that NC&O had a roundhouse at 24th. Street in National City, but I don't know where did the Cuyamaca and Coronado had theirs...

While we're at it... When did Santa Fe quit passenger service to National City?

SP5103 Wrote:
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> Berg Wrote:
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> > I think you guys are confusing history.
> >
> > I have always seen a turntable at the SD&AE
> shop
> > but I was not around for steam. SD&AE had a wye
> in
> > the steam days that went towards were Santa Fe
> > later built 24th st yard in the 1950's.
>
> The SD&AE had a large enginehouse in the general
> vicinity of the downtown trolley yards/shops, and
> I believe there was a wye definitely not a
> turntable. In the late 50s/early 60s SP/SD&AE
> built a new metal single track diesel enginehouse
> closer to Harbor Dr, all heavy work saw the
> engines sent to Taylor Yard. I believe the
> turntable, salvaged from Colton as I recall, was
> installed at this time.
>
> An expansion of the trolley and the Coaster
> layover yard eliminated the diesel enginehouse.
> The turntable was relocated against Harbor Dr. so
> they still could turn an engine if needed, but
> also to turn any "unload this side only" cars. In
> the Kyle era, MTDB built a new big shop in San
> Ysidro and that is what SD&IV uses.
>
>
>
> > Santa Fe freight operated out of National City.
>
>
> Original terminal was National City, but 22nd
> Street has been the primary yard at least in the
> diesel era, possibly much earlier. Nasty City is
> pretty much treated as a branch or industrial spur
> but that may have changed in the last couple
> decades.
>
> > Why would Santa Fe not use Washington St Wye?
>
> I'm reasonably sure they turned the passenger
> consist in the steam era and the entire passenger
> train in the diesel era until Amtrak went to cab
> cars. The tail was on the base so you had to wait
> for an MP to open thd gate for anything more than
> a engine or two.