Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well.
Author: Ed Workman
Date: 01-24-2018 - 08:05

Thanks very much to BOB and the Dr Z
If one is interested in such things, accident reports from the last quarter of the 19th century can be revealing
So often a sentence such as this appears:
"The driver/engineer did all he could do by shutting the throttle and reversing the engine"
Some actually did shut the throttle and apply brakes, with very much better outcome.
For a reason I have been unable to determine, Galton rose only to Captain, but was later knighted.
He reported on US RRs in the 1850s, and his other accomplishments include many things, such as hospital design and sanitation. As Dr Z posted, the principles established by Galton-Westinghouse still must be respected- brake force v adhesion, friction v speed etc.
SOme have been 'worked around" by brake shoe materials, wheelslip detection and other things, but the basics remain to bite the unwary



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  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. BOB2 01-23-2018 - 14:23
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. Hot Water 01-23-2018 - 14:43
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. Dr Zarkoff 01-23-2018 - 17:11
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. 102500 01-23-2018 - 20:12
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. Dr Zarkoff 01-24-2018 - 13:29
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. ex-BN 01-23-2018 - 17:14
  Re: Zark we have at least one candidate for recertification..... BOB2 01-23-2018 - 17:30
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. Dr Zarkoff 01-23-2018 - 17:33
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. ex-BN 01-23-2018 - 18:16
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. BOB2 01-23-2018 - 19:06
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. ex-BN 01-23-2018 - 19:42
  Re: Really? Sliding the wheels by putting in reverse somehow creates more friction on icy rail? BOB2 01-23-2018 - 20:55
  Re: Really? Sliding the wheels by putting in reverse somehow creates more friction on icy rail? Dr Zarkoff 01-23-2018 - 22:24
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. Dr Zarkoff 01-23-2018 - 19:15
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. Chris Walker 01-23-2018 - 20:12
  Re: Ed, that is my experience,with the physics of choo-choo's as well. Ed Workman 01-24-2018 - 08:05
  Re: Ed, steam choo-choo's could reverse and didn't have air brakes way back then.. BOB2 01-24-2018 - 08:39
  Re: BNSF engr claims wrongly fired in Portland, OR, incident Dr Zarkoff 01-23-2018 - 17:27
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  Re: So what is thet claim you're trying to make here Nudge? BOB2 01-23-2018 - 19:24
  Re: So what is thet claim you're trying to make here Nudge? Dr Zarkoff 01-23-2018 - 19:40
  Re: So what is thet claim you're trying to make here Nudge? Nudge 01-25-2018 - 11:19


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