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Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
Author: tundraboomer
Date: 02-06-2018 - 16:23

BOB2 Wrote:
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> As I noted, if there were no block signals
> operating to give any indication of the break in
> the track circuit, why weren't they operating this
> train at restricted speed?

Because the rules say that under signal suspension conditions, method of operation will be by TWC-D, as it is in non-signalled (dark) territory. It's a safe way to run trains and is the same basic principle as train order operation. That is, IF everyone does their job. Sadly, in this case, it appears the CSX crew didn't report the correct switch information to the dispatcher before releasing their authority in that area. A cardinal sin in dark territory railroading.

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  NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) Graham Buxton 02-04-2018 - 18:26
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) Geob 02-04-2018 - 19:12
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) JOHN 02-04-2018 - 19:53
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) OPRRMS 02-04-2018 - 20:53
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) Hoghead 1 02-04-2018 - 21:13
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) OPRRMS 02-04-2018 - 21:16
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) RRACS 02-06-2018 - 07:56
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) Hot Water 02-06-2018 - 07:59
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) tundraboomer 02-06-2018 - 08:34
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) OPRRMS 02-06-2018 - 11:09
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) tundraboomer 02-06-2018 - 11:27
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) OPRRMS 02-06-2018 - 11:35
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) tundraboomer 02-06-2018 - 11:45
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) OPRRMS 02-06-2018 - 11:58
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) Dr Zarkoff 02-06-2018 - 12:36
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) OPRRMS 02-06-2018 - 12:51
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) tundraboomer 02-06-2018 - 14:09
  Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed? BOB2 02-06-2018 - 14:57
  Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed? OPRRMS 02-06-2018 - 15:45
  Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed? tundraboomer 02-06-2018 - 16:23
  Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed? OldPoleBurner 02-07-2018 - 12:15
  Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed? Dr Zarkoff 02-07-2018 - 13:45
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) Dr Zarkoff 02-06-2018 - 16:10
  Re: 59 mph, in unsingalled territory OMG! BOB2 02-06-2018 - 17:14
  Re: 59 mph, in unsingalled territory OMG! tundraboomer 02-06-2018 - 18:48
  Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths? BOB2 02-06-2018 - 19:36
  Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths? tundraboomer 02-06-2018 - 19:42
  Re: 100 years, actually over 175 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths? BOB2 02-06-2018 - 20:39
  Re: 100 years, actually over 175 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths? tundraboomer 02-07-2018 - 06:14
  Re: My poor logic, yeah right? BOB2 02-07-2018 - 08:35
  Re: My poor logic, yeah right? OPRRMS 02-07-2018 - 13:12
  Re: My poor logic, yeah right? OPRRMS 02-07-2018 - 13:32
  Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice. BOB2 02-07-2018 - 15:34
  Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice. OPRRMS 02-07-2018 - 17:28
  Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice. OPRRMS 02-07-2018 - 18:10
  Re: My poor logic, yeah right? tundraboomer 02-07-2018 - 17:27
  Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths? OldPoleBurner 02-07-2018 - 13:16
  Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths? Dr Zarkoff 02-07-2018 - 13:51
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) BOB2 02-04-2018 - 21:16
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) OPRRMS 02-04-2018 - 20:40
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) WILL 02-04-2018 - 20:59
  Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC) RWS 02-04-2018 - 21:53
  Atk in SC Nudge 02-07-2018 - 18:21
  Re: Atk in SC OPRRMS 02-07-2018 - 18:36
  Re: Atk in SC tundraboomer 02-07-2018 - 19:15
  Re: Atk in SC Dr Zarkoff 02-07-2018 - 21:38
  Re: Atk in SC Finis 02-07-2018 - 20:46
  Re: Atk in SC Glen Icanberry 02-09-2018 - 03:55
  Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail? BOB2 02-09-2018 - 07:47
  Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail? tundraboomer 02-09-2018 - 08:14
  Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail? OPRRMS 02-09-2018 - 10:50


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