Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
Author: OPRRMS
Date: 02-09-2018 - 10:50
BOB2 Wrote:
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> So, yes OPRRMS, it was not a signal "failure" as I
> experience on Beaumont, where we were expected to
> run at restricted speed, because all of the track
> circuit protection was down.
>
> Yes, this was a "planned" "shut down" of the same
> track circuit protections, so it was apparently
> "okay" to go at 59 mph., under the "rules" without
> that protection, because that protection was shut
> doen "on purpose".....
>
> That is the logic I am hearing babbled by some
> "old heads": When it is an unplanned failure you
> it is only safe to operate at restricted speed,
> but when we shut it down on purpose it is okay to
> do 59 mph, with a passenger train, because the
> "rule" said it was okay"....... And, I see that
> one of you thinks that is a reasonable and logical
> thing to think, because "you can't prevent all
> accidents'...... WTF?
>
> I don't know if some of you might have noticed, we
> have just done that "experiment". And, that it
> should be obviously apparent from the
> "observation" of the results of that "experiment",
> based on my "observed" "body count", that this
> train could not miraculously somehow stop faster
> for a "switch not properly lined", just because we
> turned off the protective track circuits and
> signals....."on purpose".....
>
> But, in the opinion of some of you bright lights,
> my logic on this fact and this result, is somehow
> flawed, of course.
Thanks for admitting that you're wrong.
NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Graham Buxton |
02-04-2018 - 18:26 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Geob |
02-04-2018 - 19:12 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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JOHN |
02-04-2018 - 19:53 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 20:53 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Hoghead 1 |
02-04-2018 - 21:13 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 21:16 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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RRACS |
02-06-2018 - 07:56 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Hot Water |
02-06-2018 - 07:59 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 08:34 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:09 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 11:27 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:35 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 11:45 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:58 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-06-2018 - 12:36 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 12:51 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 14:09 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 14:57 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 15:45 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 16:23 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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OldPoleBurner |
02-07-2018 - 12:15 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 13:45 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-06-2018 - 16:10 |
Re: 59 mph, in unsingalled territory OMG!
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 17:14 |
Re: 59 mph, in unsingalled territory OMG!
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 18:48 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 19:36 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 19:42 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 175 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 20:39 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 175 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 06:14 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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BOB2 |
02-07-2018 - 08:35 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 13:12 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 13:32 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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BOB2 |
02-07-2018 - 15:34 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 17:28 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 18:10 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 17:27 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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OldPoleBurner |
02-07-2018 - 13:16 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 13:51 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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BOB2 |
02-04-2018 - 21:16 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 20:40 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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WILL |
02-04-2018 - 20:59 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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RWS |
02-04-2018 - 21:53 |
Atk in SC
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Nudge |
02-07-2018 - 18:21 |
Re: Atk in SC
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 18:36 |
Re: Atk in SC
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 19:15 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 21:38 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Finis |
02-07-2018 - 20:46 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Glen Icanberry |
02-09-2018 - 03:55 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
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BOB2 |
02-09-2018 - 07:47 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
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tundraboomer |
02-09-2018 - 08:14 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail? |
OPRRMS |
02-09-2018 - 10:50 |