Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA
Author: Donaghy
Date: 08-11-2018 - 19:26

Observer,
Excellent commentary. Traffic bad up through Windsor. Healdsburg gets some, but nothing like the Petaluma and Santa Rosa and Novato areas do. Buses are adequate to deal with people commuting from Cloverdale to Santa Rosa or Petaluma. Would a train be more convenient for the dozen or two dozen Cloverdale citizens who could use train service? Sure. But it's not worth the several hundred million dollars it would take to get up there to serve them. SMART has yet to prove to it's stakeholders that it can provide commute service on the half hour. Let them show they can do that with the present system and then think about investing in adding 25 miles of track to the system. How can the public know, given SMART's record of not meeting expectations and forecasts generally being way over-optimistic, that SMART can even afford to operate the additional track at all?

Of course the SMART/NWP moonies see red when you bring this up. One of them said that because Cloverdale built a train station to nowhere 30 years ago, they are owed a SMART railroad to service it, but this guy, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, doesn't realize SMART isn't even going to use the 30 year old never-used station. A new 5-8 million dollar platform would have to be built for SMART, as at all other stations.

Another guy said SMART must be built to Cloverdale, regardless of whether it was feasible or advantageous to the functioning of the railroad as a true commuter line, because Cloverdale needed to be developed in order to reduce development pressure at all the other stops on system, to which the railroad itself has brought basically an ever-present momentum to develop the areas around the station with high-density neighborhoods.

So that's what anyone who hopes for a functioning commuter railroad is up against.



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  Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Clem 08-11-2018 - 10:31
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA synonymouse 08-11-2018 - 11:59
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Ed Workman 08-11-2018 - 13:45
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA synonymouse 08-11-2018 - 19:51
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Clem 08-11-2018 - 21:56
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA synonymouse 08-11-2018 - 23:08
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Graham Buxton 08-12-2018 - 06:02
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Ed Workman 08-12-2018 - 08:00
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 12:11
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Erik H. 08-11-2018 - 14:40
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Commenter 08-11-2018 - 15:34
  SMART Cloverdale??? Donaghy 08-11-2018 - 16:00
  Re: SMART Cloverdale??? john 08-12-2018 - 12:00
  Re: SMART Cloverdale??? Donaghy 08-12-2018 - 12:41
  Re: SMART Cloverdale??? Al Stangenberger 08-12-2018 - 14:17
  Re: SMART annexations Al Stangenberger 08-12-2018 - 15:12
  Re: SMART annexations Donaghy 08-12-2018 - 18:29
  Re: SMART annexations Al Stangenberger 08-12-2018 - 23:47
  Re: SMART Cloverdale??? 456 08-13-2018 - 00:08
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Smart cars David 08-11-2018 - 12:30
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Peter 08-11-2018 - 15:50
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA observer from afar 08-11-2018 - 17:33
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Donaghy 08-11-2018 - 19:26
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Joe Magruder 08-12-2018 - 06:31
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? BOB2 08-12-2018 - 08:15
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? mook lurking 08-12-2018 - 10:28
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Clem 08-12-2018 - 11:00
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 12:20
  Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding Clem 08-12-2018 - 13:55
  Re: Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 16:27
  Re: Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding Clem 08-12-2018 - 17:42
  Re: Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding WebDigger 08-12-2018 - 20:43
  Re: Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 21:24
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? david vartanoff 08-12-2018 - 19:39
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 21:30
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? The Canuck 08-12-2018 - 22:06
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? George Andrews 08-13-2018 - 21:01
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Peter 08-13-2018 - 22:29
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Dr Zarkoff 08-16-2018 - 22:07
  BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Donaghy 08-12-2018 - 12:52
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? synonymouse 08-12-2018 - 14:48
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 16:30
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? synonymouse 08-12-2018 - 18:13
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Commenter 08-12-2018 - 15:04
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 16:33
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Donaghy 08-12-2018 - 18:20
  Memories Commenter 08-12-2018 - 21:22
  Re: detour CLINT 08-13-2018 - 02:19
  Re: detour Orlo 08-13-2018 - 12:17
  Just build more ferries Margaret (SP fan) 08-13-2018 - 00:22
  Re: Just build more ferries Graham Buxton 08-13-2018 - 06:34
  Re: Does the Bay area hold the school record Ed Workman 08-13-2018 - 08:04
  Re: Does the Bay area hold the school record >> BART & AirTrain Graham Buxton 08-13-2018 - 08:19
  Re: Does the Bay area hold the school record >> BART & AirTrain Movin' along 08-13-2018 - 08:55
  Re: Does the Bay area hold the school record >> BART & AirTrain Clem 08-14-2018 - 19:48
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? BOB2 08-13-2018 - 08:31
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? Ed Workman 08-13-2018 - 09:08
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? BOB2 08-13-2018 - 09:34
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? WebDigger 08-13-2018 - 09:26
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? synonymouse 08-13-2018 - 12:33
  Re: No matter what happens, it will al be part of the vast conspiracy...... BOB2 08-13-2018 - 12:54
  Re: No matter what happens, it will al be part of the vast conspiracy...... synonymouse 08-13-2018 - 14:05


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