Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why?
Author: Dr Zarkoff
Date: 08-16-2018 - 22:07

> IIRC, with the new alternative crash energy management standards, the "old" crash standards are optional.

No, the old standards are definitely not optional for new construction (never have been). Besides they are for safety, not "energy management". "Old cars" are grandfathered until undergoing a certain level of rebuilding.

> Unfortunately, the new N-S cars had been designed under the old standards, which they obviously did not meet, and reengineering was too expensive/time-intensive.

The new N-S bi-level plain coaches were built to what you call the "new" standards, which date back about 25 years, and they passed the maximum compressive forces test of 250,000 lbs.

What didn't pass were the bi-level cab cars, which failed in the crew cab crumple zone test, a separate test which is applicable only to cab cars.

Since N-S was the only builder producing bi-level cab cars, they threw in the towel because without a cab car, who is going to order more new bi-level coaches if there are no matching cab cars available?



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Clem 08-11-2018 - 10:31
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA synonymouse 08-11-2018 - 11:59
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Ed Workman 08-11-2018 - 13:45
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA synonymouse 08-11-2018 - 19:51
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Clem 08-11-2018 - 21:56
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA synonymouse 08-11-2018 - 23:08
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Graham Buxton 08-12-2018 - 06:02
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Ed Workman 08-12-2018 - 08:00
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 12:11
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Erik H. 08-11-2018 - 14:40
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Commenter 08-11-2018 - 15:34
  SMART Cloverdale??? Donaghy 08-11-2018 - 16:00
  Re: SMART Cloverdale??? john 08-12-2018 - 12:00
  Re: SMART Cloverdale??? Donaghy 08-12-2018 - 12:41
  Re: SMART Cloverdale??? Al Stangenberger 08-12-2018 - 14:17
  Re: SMART annexations Al Stangenberger 08-12-2018 - 15:12
  Re: SMART annexations Donaghy 08-12-2018 - 18:29
  Re: SMART annexations Al Stangenberger 08-12-2018 - 23:47
  Re: SMART Cloverdale??? 456 08-13-2018 - 00:08
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Smart cars David 08-11-2018 - 12:30
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Peter 08-11-2018 - 15:50
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA observer from afar 08-11-2018 - 17:33
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Donaghy 08-11-2018 - 19:26
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA Joe Magruder 08-12-2018 - 06:31
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? BOB2 08-12-2018 - 08:15
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? mook lurking 08-12-2018 - 10:28
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Clem 08-12-2018 - 11:00
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 12:20
  Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding Clem 08-12-2018 - 13:55
  Re: Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 16:27
  Re: Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding Clem 08-12-2018 - 17:42
  Re: Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding WebDigger 08-12-2018 - 20:43
  Re: Friction Stir Welding, not just Friction Welding Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 21:24
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? david vartanoff 08-12-2018 - 19:39
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 21:30
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? The Canuck 08-12-2018 - 22:06
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? George Andrews 08-13-2018 - 21:01
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Peter 08-13-2018 - 22:29
  Re: Nippon Sharyo pulling out of USA- Why? Dr Zarkoff 08-16-2018 - 22:07
  BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Donaghy 08-12-2018 - 12:52
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? synonymouse 08-12-2018 - 14:48
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 16:30
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? synonymouse 08-12-2018 - 18:13
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Commenter 08-12-2018 - 15:04
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Dr Zarkoff 08-12-2018 - 16:33
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMARt? Donaghy 08-12-2018 - 18:20
  Memories Commenter 08-12-2018 - 21:22
  Re: detour CLINT 08-13-2018 - 02:19
  Re: detour Orlo 08-13-2018 - 12:17
  Just build more ferries Margaret (SP fan) 08-13-2018 - 00:22
  Re: Just build more ferries Graham Buxton 08-13-2018 - 06:34
  Re: Does the Bay area hold the school record Ed Workman 08-13-2018 - 08:04
  Re: Does the Bay area hold the school record >> BART & AirTrain Graham Buxton 08-13-2018 - 08:19
  Re: Does the Bay area hold the school record >> BART & AirTrain Movin' along 08-13-2018 - 08:55
  Re: Does the Bay area hold the school record >> BART & AirTrain Clem 08-14-2018 - 19:48
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? BOB2 08-13-2018 - 08:31
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? Ed Workman 08-13-2018 - 09:08
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? BOB2 08-13-2018 - 09:34
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? WebDigger 08-13-2018 - 09:26
  Re: BOB2: What Do You Recommend to SMART? synonymouse 08-13-2018 - 12:33
  Re: No matter what happens, it will al be part of the vast conspiracy...... BOB2 08-13-2018 - 12:54
  Re: No matter what happens, it will al be part of the vast conspiracy...... synonymouse 08-13-2018 - 14:05


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