and a side note for the Mouse
Author: No
Date: 08-21-2018 - 18:27

Japan has a high speed rail line. Japan has earthquakes - more and bigger than we've had in recent years. Japan has active volcanoes - not just historically, actually. Japan's HSR line has lots of tunnels and big bridges. Japan's HSR line has never killed a passenger, and its operators apologize publicly if timings are even 1/2 minute off the advertised (fast or slow). Japan's HSR tops out now at around 180mph, but the original line was built for about 125mph. It provides useful service.

Think about that as an example, and ask why we have to spend wild amounts of money for something that only China (hardly a fine example of cost-effectiveness) does routinely for any significant distance - more than 200 mph. Constant harping on details of what route is used doesn't help when whether the system being built is appropriate or sustainable is the issue. What's wrong with 125 mph if it provides good service for the people that need it at a price they can afford, not a monument to Mr. Kopp, and allows construction of more than a viaduct between Fresno and Bakersfield?

Yes, I know, The Proposition doesn't allow that. So how do we accomplish Plan B? Bob has some good ideas for that in SoCal. What about elsewhere?



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  CA HSR Update JOHN 08-19-2018 - 07:06
  Re: CA HSR Update My Name 08-19-2018 - 11:43
  Re: CA HSR Update Porky Pig 08-19-2018 - 12:13
  Re: CA HSR Update M. Harris 08-19-2018 - 17:44
  Re: CA HSR Update Carol L Voss 08-19-2018 - 17:46
  Re: CA HSR Update synonymouse 08-19-2018 - 18:46
  Re: CA HSR Update Clem 08-19-2018 - 20:33
  Re: CA HSR Update Clem 08-19-2018 - 20:30
  Re: CA HSR Update Commenter 08-19-2018 - 21:31
  Re: CA HSR Update Carol L Voss 08-19-2018 - 22:51
  Re: CA HSR Update? SS/DD at the Runaway Money Train BOB2 08-19-2018 - 23:48
  Re: CA HSR Update? SS/DD at the Runaway Money Train synonymouse 08-19-2018 - 23:54
  Re: CA HSR Update? SS/DD at the Runaway Money Train Joe Magruder 08-20-2018 - 03:29
  Re: CA HSR Update? SS/DD at the Runaway Money Train No 08-20-2018 - 09:27
  Re: CA HSR Update? SS/DD at the Runaway Money Train Bob 08-20-2018 - 11:25
  Re: CA HSR Update Commenter 08-20-2018 - 11:37
  Re: CA HSR Update Cprr 08-20-2018 - 15:40
  Re: CA HSR Update Commenter 08-20-2018 - 15:43
  Re: CA HSR Update No 08-20-2018 - 18:16
  Re: CA HSR Update Commenter 08-20-2018 - 20:31
  Re: CA HSR Update Commenter 08-20-2018 - 22:41
  Re: CA HSR Update Clem 08-20-2018 - 22:09
  Re: CA HSR Update No 08-21-2018 - 07:58
  Re: CA HSR Update-Half assed justtifications from the ususal suspects BOB2 08-21-2018 - 08:40
  Re: CA HSR Update-Half assed justtifications from the ususal suspects synonymouse 08-21-2018 - 10:05
  Re: CA HSR Update-Half assed justtifications from the ususal suspects BOB2 08-21-2018 - 11:00
  Re: CA HSR Update-Half assed justtifications from the ususal suspects synonymouse 08-21-2018 - 11:21
  Re: CA HSR Update-Of tunnels, taxpayer dollars, and user needs....? BOB2 08-21-2018 - 12:31
  Re: CA HSR Update-Of tunnels, taxpayer dollars, and user needs....? synonymouse 08-21-2018 - 14:18
  Re: CA HSR Update-Of tunnels and the evil earth quake conspiracy...? BOB2 08-21-2018 - 14:34
  Re: CA HSR Update-Of tunnels and the evil earth quake conspiracy...? No 08-21-2018 - 15:55
  Re: CA HSR Update-Of tunnels, taxpayer dollars, and user needs....? No 08-21-2018 - 15:51
  Re: CA HSR Update-Half assed justtifications from the ususal suspects No 08-21-2018 - 15:48
  Re: CA HSR Update-Planning History and Plan B.....? BOB2 08-21-2018 - 16:58
  Re: CA HSR Update-Planning History and Plan B.....? synonymouse 08-21-2018 - 17:21
  Re: CA HSR Update-Planning History and Plan B.....? synonymouse 08-21-2018 - 17:25
  Geology??? OMG???? Will we fall off into the ocean...??? BOB2 08-21-2018 - 17:31
  Re: Geology??? OMG???? Will we fall off into the ocean...??? synonymouse 08-21-2018 - 19:00
  Re: CA HSR Update-Planning History and Plan B.....? No 08-21-2018 - 18:04
  and a side note for the Mouse No 08-21-2018 - 18:27
  Re: and a side note for the Mouse, as though it would matter? BOB2 08-21-2018 - 18:39
  Re: CA HSR Update Tunnel Security Concerns ? Mighty Mouse is on the way....... BOB2 08-21-2018 - 18:07
  Re: CA HSR Update Tunnel Security Concerns ? Mighty Mouse is on the way....... Kr 08-22-2018 - 08:26
  Re: CA HSR Update Tunnel Security Concerns ? Mighty Mouse is on the way....... Kr 08-22-2018 - 08:26


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