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Re: Question for Hot Water Evil UMW? Evil California????? Isn't there really a "simpler" explanation?
Author: Big Boy
Date: 05-05-2019 - 19:06
BOB2 Wrote:
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> Some Mouse droppings, and, of course, we now here
> that it might have been part of a California fire
> prevention conspiracy of some kind....? Yeah
> well....
>
> How many folks out there have ever heard of
> Occam's razor?
>
> So exactly how many coaling towers do they have
> left out there have to load coal and refuel the
> 3985 or 4014 from?
>
> How many coaling towers did the SP have, or how
> many on the UP LA Division in recent times?
>
> Can you easily carry an "extra" tender with a
> bunker full of coal, that can be used en-route?
>
> And then of course, there is also the fact that I
> was told, back around the early 1990's, by a UP
> Official I knew, that UP converted 3985 to oil, in
> order to make refueling a lot easier, probably as
> a result of their experience in operating the 844,
> a long way from "home".
So, explain how the Southern managed to carry cars of coal with them on their 4501 and other trips, and even built a special conveyor car to move coal from the hoppers into the tenders.
Not that that would make any sense to duplicate on UP. People overlook or have conveniently "forgotten" that after the 1982 trip to Idaho and Utah that caused lineside fires all over place, 3985 was restricted by top management to operating between Cheyenne and Laramie ONLY.
That restriction was not lifted u till 3985 was converted to oil.
And yes, it is much cheaper and easier to handle and burn oil than coal.
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> Some Mouse droppings, and, of course, we now here
> that it might have been part of a California fire
> prevention conspiracy of some kind....? Yeah
> well....
>
> How many folks out there have ever heard of
> Occam's razor?
>
> So exactly how many coaling towers do they have
> left out there have to load coal and refuel the
> 3985 or 4014 from?
>
> How many coaling towers did the SP have, or how
> many on the UP LA Division in recent times?
>
> Can you easily carry an "extra" tender with a
> bunker full of coal, that can be used en-route?
>
> And then of course, there is also the fact that I
> was told, back around the early 1990's, by a UP
> Official I knew, that UP converted 3985 to oil, in
> order to make refueling a lot easier, probably as
> a result of their experience in operating the 844,
> a long way from "home".
So, explain how the Southern managed to carry cars of coal with them on their 4501 and other trips, and even built a special conveyor car to move coal from the hoppers into the tenders.
Not that that would make any sense to duplicate on UP. People overlook or have conveniently "forgotten" that after the 1982 trip to Idaho and Utah that caused lineside fires all over place, 3985 was restricted by top management to operating between Cheyenne and Laramie ONLY.
That restriction was not lifted u till 3985 was converted to oil.
And yes, it is much cheaper and easier to handle and burn oil than coal.
