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Re: Question for Hot Water Evil UMW? Evil California????? Isn't there really a "simpler" explanation?
Author: Lawman
Date: 05-05-2019 - 21:35
legitimate question Wrote:
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> Can you point me at a regulation that prohibits
> burning of coal in a museum or excursion steam
> locomotive? Especially one operated by a
> federally-regulated railroad. I don't know of any,
> and can't find any in a cursory search of ARB and
> my local air district rulebooks.
>
> At the railfairs in Sacramento, there was plenty
> of coal being burnt, though not of course in 3985
> or 844 which by then had long since been converted
> to oil. It's just much simpler to use oil (diesel
> fuel, actually) for steam engines that will run
> long distances.
>
> It's also getting hard to find good steam coal.
> Those who buy it in small amounts (various live
> steam recreational operations) are converting
> small steamers to oil or propane because it's
> easier to get and works better. It also has
> benefits in terms of less mess in general. Yes,
> air districts might "encourage" some full-time
> recreational live steamer to convert, but I still
> don't know of any rules requiring it - pointers to
> actual regs would be welcome.
It's politics. See if you and a few others on here can get it:
Damn few coal-fired steam locomotives operate in California.
Those few that do operate only very infrequently.
If you think the various air quality management entities cannot interfere with railroads and their locomotives, think again. Better yet, ask a trucker.
UP might only operate a big steam locomotive in California only 9nce a decade or so.
On the other hand, UP operates diesel locomotives in CA 24/7/365.
How much sense would it make for a big railroad with that kind of daily exposure to the whims of the AQMD's to basically stick a finger in the eye if those AQMDs?
Of course, we all know the AQMDs would NEVER, EVER do anything to extract their pound of flesh for such blatant disregard of their precious authority, such as start writing violations and assessing steep fines on the day-to-railroad operations.
Right?
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> Can you point me at a regulation that prohibits
> burning of coal in a museum or excursion steam
> locomotive? Especially one operated by a
> federally-regulated railroad. I don't know of any,
> and can't find any in a cursory search of ARB and
> my local air district rulebooks.
>
> At the railfairs in Sacramento, there was plenty
> of coal being burnt, though not of course in 3985
> or 844 which by then had long since been converted
> to oil. It's just much simpler to use oil (diesel
> fuel, actually) for steam engines that will run
> long distances.
>
> It's also getting hard to find good steam coal.
> Those who buy it in small amounts (various live
> steam recreational operations) are converting
> small steamers to oil or propane because it's
> easier to get and works better. It also has
> benefits in terms of less mess in general. Yes,
> air districts might "encourage" some full-time
> recreational live steamer to convert, but I still
> don't know of any rules requiring it - pointers to
> actual regs would be welcome.
It's politics. See if you and a few others on here can get it:
Damn few coal-fired steam locomotives operate in California.
Those few that do operate only very infrequently.
If you think the various air quality management entities cannot interfere with railroads and their locomotives, think again. Better yet, ask a trucker.
UP might only operate a big steam locomotive in California only 9nce a decade or so.
On the other hand, UP operates diesel locomotives in CA 24/7/365.
How much sense would it make for a big railroad with that kind of daily exposure to the whims of the AQMD's to basically stick a finger in the eye if those AQMDs?
Of course, we all know the AQMDs would NEVER, EVER do anything to extract their pound of flesh for such blatant disregard of their precious authority, such as start writing violations and assessing steep fines on the day-to-railroad operations.
Right?
