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Re: Re:" all for the best'?-Random lines on a map are truly "A better system", right?
Author: les
Date: 06-12-2019 - 06:24
BOB2 Wrote:
> > No great loss, system is poorly thought out.
> >
> > A better system
>
> A "better system" of "what", than "what"?
>
> That's how true professionals do real real
> planning, we give colored crayons to foamers (or
> in the case of CAHSRA to "foaming" politicians),
> and have them draw random proposed rail lines on
> google maps....
>
> This "new age" planning method. is all about the
> individual creativity of the children...and
> everyone always gets an A, so we don't hurt their
> precious "self esteem", with any "criticism" of
> their "unique" contributions to the creative
> process, right?
>
> With this new "colored lines on a map" method of
> transportation planning, there's no need for any
> of that pesky and hard analysis, or of any of that
> difficult math, to determine really stupid or
> unimportant things, like the costs, or the
> ridership, or the return on investment (kind of
> like the way the CAHSRA fiasco was "planned"...?).
>
>
> This "map of lines" LV proposal is right up there
> with that outfit that puts out these vague "press
> releases" about how their "company" is going to
> "take over" the UP as a "common carrier" and
> "operate" their "used wine train" equipment to run
> service to Las Vegas (any day now...?), that was
> posted a couple weeks ago...?
>
> I've actually reviewed a number of the LV
> environmental scoping documents on the (now)
> Virgin Brightline proposal and spent the last 25
> years going to CAHSRA meetings and reviewing their
> useless travel demand analysis, bloated costs,
> incomplete business plans, and followed the
> competent and effective administration of its
> implementation...
>
> I know that maybe, it's just me again? But, from
> my 50 or so years of experience in doing some of
> this stuff, I'll take the Virgin LV work, or the
> due diligence and proper planning by Brightline in
> Florida, and Branson's actual "track record" of
> financing successful rail operations, over this
> new fangled "lines on a map" method of
> transportation "planning"....
Wow, aren't we full of vitriol. I'm so sorry to see you have such a sad disposition here.
Or are you just so heartbroken about your beloved Brightline line getting nixed that any alternative to it is to be considered a piece of s@**. poor poor bobby. if i had a virtual hankie I would send it.
I hate to say it but the likes of yourself do not deserve a drawing that requires more than 10 minutes of effort. Seeing how I'm not doing it for supposed "experts", but for mere armchair hacks like yourself, it is more than sufficient.
The whole point of the map is to illustrate an alternative set of routes for max ridership and one that will best integrate into the CAHSR system. Something other companies can bid on routes and make a more competitive system. Nothing more Bobby, so please lower your expectations and take your blood pressure pill.
Lucrative HSR rail lines:
San Diego to Las Vegas would be an ideal HSR city pair and money maker.
Fresno-Bakersfield to Las Vegas would be an ideal HSR city pair and money maker.
Riverside to Las Vegas would be an ideal HSR city pair and money maker (when added to existing SD-LV overhead).
Los Angeles to Las Vegas would be an ideal HSR city pair and money maker.
In comparison, Texas Central is planning to spend 18 billion on the construction of one line between Dallas and San Antonio. A money making ideal city pair. But keep in mind they are planning HSR electric trains and none of this slow speed diesel crap.
> > No great loss, system is poorly thought out.
> >
> > A better system
>
> A "better system" of "what", than "what"?
>
> That's how true professionals do real real
> planning, we give colored crayons to foamers (or
> in the case of CAHSRA to "foaming" politicians),
> and have them draw random proposed rail lines on
> google maps....
>
> This "new age" planning method. is all about the
> individual creativity of the children...and
> everyone always gets an A, so we don't hurt their
> precious "self esteem", with any "criticism" of
> their "unique" contributions to the creative
> process, right?
>
> With this new "colored lines on a map" method of
> transportation planning, there's no need for any
> of that pesky and hard analysis, or of any of that
> difficult math, to determine really stupid or
> unimportant things, like the costs, or the
> ridership, or the return on investment (kind of
> like the way the CAHSRA fiasco was "planned"...?).
>
>
> This "map of lines" LV proposal is right up there
> with that outfit that puts out these vague "press
> releases" about how their "company" is going to
> "take over" the UP as a "common carrier" and
> "operate" their "used wine train" equipment to run
> service to Las Vegas (any day now...?), that was
> posted a couple weeks ago...?
>
> I've actually reviewed a number of the LV
> environmental scoping documents on the (now)
> Virgin Brightline proposal and spent the last 25
> years going to CAHSRA meetings and reviewing their
> useless travel demand analysis, bloated costs,
> incomplete business plans, and followed the
> competent and effective administration of its
> implementation...
>
> I know that maybe, it's just me again? But, from
> my 50 or so years of experience in doing some of
> this stuff, I'll take the Virgin LV work, or the
> due diligence and proper planning by Brightline in
> Florida, and Branson's actual "track record" of
> financing successful rail operations, over this
> new fangled "lines on a map" method of
> transportation "planning"....
Wow, aren't we full of vitriol. I'm so sorry to see you have such a sad disposition here.
Or are you just so heartbroken about your beloved Brightline line getting nixed that any alternative to it is to be considered a piece of s@**. poor poor bobby. if i had a virtual hankie I would send it.
I hate to say it but the likes of yourself do not deserve a drawing that requires more than 10 minutes of effort. Seeing how I'm not doing it for supposed "experts", but for mere armchair hacks like yourself, it is more than sufficient.
The whole point of the map is to illustrate an alternative set of routes for max ridership and one that will best integrate into the CAHSR system. Something other companies can bid on routes and make a more competitive system. Nothing more Bobby, so please lower your expectations and take your blood pressure pill.
Lucrative HSR rail lines:
San Diego to Las Vegas would be an ideal HSR city pair and money maker.
Fresno-Bakersfield to Las Vegas would be an ideal HSR city pair and money maker.
Riverside to Las Vegas would be an ideal HSR city pair and money maker (when added to existing SD-LV overhead).
Los Angeles to Las Vegas would be an ideal HSR city pair and money maker.
In comparison, Texas Central is planning to spend 18 billion on the construction of one line between Dallas and San Antonio. A money making ideal city pair. But keep in mind they are planning HSR electric trains and none of this slow speed diesel crap.
