Re: GGRM in Windsor
Author: ron
Date: 07-20-2019 - 10:43

Del Monte Burns Wrote:
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> The people who run GGRM should have tried to get a
> signed agreement with SMART outlining what if any
> type of operation would be allowed on their rails
> before they agreed to move to Schellville.
> They probably would have been told to forget about
> it.
> A properly run tourist train like Napa Valley Wine
> train could bring extra money into communities
> like Santa Rosa and Healdsburg from visitors who
> patronize shops and restaurants
> but....unfortunately SMART would have been
> inundated with protests by NIMBY neighbors along
> the right of way who would not want noisy steam
> engines and old diesel trains rumbling along the
> tracks if a deal with GGRM was on the SMART Boards
> agenda.
> Remember all the legal battles NVR had to wage
> before winning the right to operate? It took
> several years and a lot of money from the original
> owners to win that fight.
> I dpn't think GGRM has that kind of money
> Having steam and vintage diesel trains would be
> nice but it would bring out inconsiderate foamers
> who would trespass along the right of way and
> drive like maniacs along parallel roads to get
> pictures and videos.
> SMART would not want to spend extra money on
> security for crowd control.
> They would not want antique trains interfering
> with regular operations.
> They have enough problems with people getting
> killed on the tracks
> SMART is a publicly financed agency that relies on
> taxpayer support not a tourist train only
> operation like Niles Canyon, OERM, Rio Vista and
> others that can find a right of way for their
> exclusive use that is in an urban area with a
> large population base.

Very well written. Mr. Burns got it right.I suggested nearly two years ago that GGRM sit down and discuss with SMART their hopes and dreams. The NCRA through contract (and transferred to the NWP) has a legal right to run excursions. The @#$%& is in the details. When and where is not spelled out.SMART's timetable forbids non roller bearing equipment. SMART could simply say GGRM can run excursions during the weekend. BUT wink, wink, they want a 200 million dollar insurance policy.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  GGRM in Windsor Cprr 07-19-2019 - 08:25
  Re: GGRM in Windsor HP Refugee 07-19-2019 - 08:45
  Re: GGRM in Windsor HUTCH 7.62 07-19-2019 - 08:48
  Re: GGRM in Windsor HUTCH 7.62 07-19-2019 - 08:53
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Rick Harrison 07-19-2019 - 11:34
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Chumlee 07-19-2019 - 12:18
  Re: GGRM in Windsor GHOST OF THE OLD MAN 07-19-2019 - 15:13
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Dr Zarkoff 07-19-2019 - 11:25
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Bob the Train Guy 07-19-2019 - 12:25
  Re: GGRM in Windsor John 07-19-2019 - 14:11
  Re: GGRM in Windsor HUTCH 7.62 07-19-2019 - 12:27
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Round to it 07-19-2019 - 13:52
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Jon 07-19-2019 - 15:31
  Re: GGRM in Windsor J Mann 07-19-2019 - 16:46
  Re: GGRM in Windsor ? 07-19-2019 - 17:50
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Looney Tunes 07-19-2019 - 16:47
  Re: GGRM in Windsor-Mighty Mouse will make sure it never happens, right? BOB2 07-19-2019 - 17:18
  Re: GGRM in Windsor-Mighty Mouse will make sure it never happens, right? Mel Vin 07-19-2019 - 18:07
  Re: GGRM in Windsor-Mighty Mouse will make sure it never happens, right? J Mann 07-19-2019 - 18:59
  Re: Preservation Ego Maniacs Joe Cullum 07-19-2019 - 19:05
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Cprr 07-19-2019 - 17:34
  Re: GGRM in Windsor ron 07-19-2019 - 18:49
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Del Monte Burns 07-20-2019 - 00:17
  Re: GGRM in Windsor FUD 07-20-2019 - 06:15
  Re: GGRM in Windsor synonymouse 07-20-2019 - 10:30
  Re: GGRM in Windsor John 07-20-2019 - 15:43
  Re: GGRM in Windsor synonymouse 07-20-2019 - 16:27
  Re: GGRM in Windsor ron 07-20-2019 - 10:43
  Re: GGRM in Windsor Mike Pechner 07-20-2019 - 22:57


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