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Re: Redlands groundbreaking for Metrolink-Great News, Can;t Wait to Ride..."Rare mileage", restored to service...
Author: Joe Cullum
Date: 07-21-2019 - 15:36
Edit:
This is where I read that Arrow might run in other lines in San Bernardino County shared with Metrolink.
I think it's an excellent idea of true regional rail not limited to commuters and even reverse commuters during off peak hours. Ridership should be there.
Joe Cullum in Exeter ca
Joe Cullum Wrote:
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> Interesting discussion.
>
> I read somewhere that this extension is not FTA
> type light rail. It's like SMART/Texrail (you can
> run it with BNSF, although it is my understanding
> BNSF hasn't run east to Redlands for a few years.
>
> Arrow is supposed to run WITH Metrolink. On that
> report I read Arrow will run west to
> Montclair-Claremont area and meet with the Metro
> Gold Line.
>
> What needs to happen is Metrolink needs to buy
> some Stadler or Nippon Sharyo type DMUs and run
> them Intra-County on reverse commutes or on runs
> that dont hold the ridership for an entire train.
>
> It's cheaper to do it this way. A couple of years
> ago there was a very knowledgeable consultant at
> California Passenger Rail Summit in Union Station
> who explained why Metrolink should go Electrolink
> on some lines a la Caltrain...
>
> But I still believe a few DMUs will help on not
> stealing locos and saving the Counties some of
> their moneys.
>
> Joe Cullum in Exeter ca
>
>
>
>
> mvs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BOB2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I don't know why we haven't found our own
> local
> > > version of Mouse to whine about this project?
>
> > >
> > > I mean what with three of the "evil" DMU's to
> > be
> > > run by evil Thomas's pal "Devious Diesel" and
> > > all.....?
> > >
> > > Great news, I can't wait to ride it. I can't
> > wait
> > > to take 3751 over ML, back to a Route 66 Days
> > > festival in San Berdo, and take a spin on it
> > out
> > > to Redlands, and back...
> >
> > I do not intend to play the Devi1's Advocate
> role
> > you're alluding to, BOB2, but is there
> sufficient
> > demand for a Sprinter-type DMU service running
> all
> > day between San Berdoo and Redlands?
> >
> > I do wish this could've been an extension of
> the
> > San Bernardino Line and the IEOC Line; I
> suspect
> > that much of the ridership will be continuing
> on
> > to Cucamonga, San Gabriel Valley, Downtown LA,
> and
> > Orange County. Having to change trains in San
> > Bernardino is not ideal.
> >
> > Also, I wish they were considering making a
> > southward turn around Loma Linda to connect
> with
> > the UP Sunset Route. Once the open land
> between
> > the Redlands Line and the Sunset Route is
> > built-up, forget about making this connection.
> >
> > Thanks as always for your insight.
This is where I read that Arrow might run in other lines in San Bernardino County shared with Metrolink.
I think it's an excellent idea of true regional rail not limited to commuters and even reverse commuters during off peak hours. Ridership should be there.
Joe Cullum in Exeter ca
Joe Cullum Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Interesting discussion.
>
> I read somewhere that this extension is not FTA
> type light rail. It's like SMART/Texrail (you can
> run it with BNSF, although it is my understanding
> BNSF hasn't run east to Redlands for a few years.
>
> Arrow is supposed to run WITH Metrolink. On that
> report I read Arrow will run west to
> Montclair-Claremont area and meet with the Metro
> Gold Line.
>
> What needs to happen is Metrolink needs to buy
> some Stadler or Nippon Sharyo type DMUs and run
> them Intra-County on reverse commutes or on runs
> that dont hold the ridership for an entire train.
>
> It's cheaper to do it this way. A couple of years
> ago there was a very knowledgeable consultant at
> California Passenger Rail Summit in Union Station
> who explained why Metrolink should go Electrolink
> on some lines a la Caltrain...
>
> But I still believe a few DMUs will help on not
> stealing locos and saving the Counties some of
> their moneys.
>
> Joe Cullum in Exeter ca
>
>
>
>
> mvs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BOB2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I don't know why we haven't found our own
> local
> > > version of Mouse to whine about this project?
>
> > >
> > > I mean what with three of the "evil" DMU's to
> > be
> > > run by evil Thomas's pal "Devious Diesel" and
> > > all.....?
> > >
> > > Great news, I can't wait to ride it. I can't
> > wait
> > > to take 3751 over ML, back to a Route 66 Days
> > > festival in San Berdo, and take a spin on it
> > out
> > > to Redlands, and back...
> >
> > I do not intend to play the Devi1's Advocate
> role
> > you're alluding to, BOB2, but is there
> sufficient
> > demand for a Sprinter-type DMU service running
> all
> > day between San Berdoo and Redlands?
> >
> > I do wish this could've been an extension of
> the
> > San Bernardino Line and the IEOC Line; I
> suspect
> > that much of the ridership will be continuing
> on
> > to Cucamonga, San Gabriel Valley, Downtown LA,
> and
> > Orange County. Having to change trains in San
> > Bernardino is not ideal.
> >
> > Also, I wish they were considering making a
> > southward turn around Loma Linda to connect
> with
> > the UP Sunset Route. Once the open land
> between
> > the Redlands Line and the Sunset Route is
> > built-up, forget about making this connection.
> >
> > Thanks as always for your insight.
