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Re: How long til Oakland figures out new tunnels = Amtrak rerouting from JLS to run via SF to SJ?
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Date: 10-04-2019 - 16:49
FUD Wrote:
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> Yes, already got a "ghetto gauge" comment as
> expected.
>
> Really, though, Amtrak Cap Corridor provides a
> commuter train through the East Bay to San Jose.
> Even under current conditions, it's faster than is
> likely with a diversion to SF then Caltrain. It
> can stay as an "express" or "limited" run even
> with BART going to San Jose; BART would provide
> the local service. And even if Caltrain has room
> (it doesn't now, and won't unless it gets a full
> 4-track line, and even then the approaches to the
> Transbay Terminal will limit train frequencies).
> Then, who's going to electrify the UP (if UP would
> let you) from Oakland to Sacramento or even
> Auburn, to let the Cap Corridor be electrified; it
> works only if HSR builds a new line in the
> corridor which ain't gonna happen if the other Bay
> Area stuff sucks up the $100B.
>
> Assuming a second BART tunnel is built, with
> additional tracks for Amtrak etc., a better
> arrangement would be for Caltrain to extend to a
> suitable connection in the East Bay. Or BART might
> want to route the new line via JLS or Emeryville
> for an Amtrak connection (BART-Amtrak connections
> at the moment are kind of funky, not centrally
> located). Perhaps the long-distance trains (if
> they still exist after the next 4 years) could
> change locomotives at Emeryville and go into SF.
> But Cap Corridor would (like San Joaquins did when
> adding Sacramento trains) need to provide direct
> SF service using additional trains (or rerouting
> those that end at JLS) rather than rerouting
> existing San Jose trains.
You can take the BART out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the ghetto out of BART
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> Yes, already got a "ghetto gauge" comment as
> expected.
>
> Really, though, Amtrak Cap Corridor provides a
> commuter train through the East Bay to San Jose.
> Even under current conditions, it's faster than is
> likely with a diversion to SF then Caltrain. It
> can stay as an "express" or "limited" run even
> with BART going to San Jose; BART would provide
> the local service. And even if Caltrain has room
> (it doesn't now, and won't unless it gets a full
> 4-track line, and even then the approaches to the
> Transbay Terminal will limit train frequencies).
> Then, who's going to electrify the UP (if UP would
> let you) from Oakland to Sacramento or even
> Auburn, to let the Cap Corridor be electrified; it
> works only if HSR builds a new line in the
> corridor which ain't gonna happen if the other Bay
> Area stuff sucks up the $100B.
>
> Assuming a second BART tunnel is built, with
> additional tracks for Amtrak etc., a better
> arrangement would be for Caltrain to extend to a
> suitable connection in the East Bay. Or BART might
> want to route the new line via JLS or Emeryville
> for an Amtrak connection (BART-Amtrak connections
> at the moment are kind of funky, not centrally
> located). Perhaps the long-distance trains (if
> they still exist after the next 4 years) could
> change locomotives at Emeryville and go into SF.
> But Cap Corridor would (like San Joaquins did when
> adding Sacramento trains) need to provide direct
> SF service using additional trains (or rerouting
> those that end at JLS) rather than rerouting
> existing San Jose trains.
You can take the BART out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the ghetto out of BART
