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Re: Feinstein takes on BART-MTC over crossing-Welll...?
Author: HUTCH 7.62
Date: 11-15-2019 - 11:58
BOB2 Wrote:
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> First, are we sure this is the real Mouse...?
>
> Second, Diane is getting old, and well, you
> know...has been out of touch with reality on these
> issues for years...
>
> Third, yeah, let's build a new Bay Bridge, to
> carry 150,000 more cars onto the Peninsula, or
> into the City... But, at a land and construction
> cost of a new parking space, as my old colleague
> Dr. Don Shoup out of UCLA would advise, of upwards
> of $75,000 per space, don't forget to add in the
> six to eleven "billion" dollar investment in
> additional parking for those cars...
>
> While not at all an enemy of the "evil"
> automobile, or new highways, like the hairshirted
> nitwits, or the nattering Nimby's, it is these
> impacts that we often don't count, for schemes
> like this, but have huge costs and impacts (like
> the additional traffic on local streets and
> traffic delay costs) after they get off of this
> new bridge, that are "backward" bending in terms
> of exponentially increasing costs.
>
> Which is why a new Dumbarton rail tunnel, or
> bridge, and more commute and intercity rail
> connections into and out of the peninsula and
> City, would be more cost effective in moving
> "person" trips, rather than "vehicle" trips...
Glad to see you agree that the Dumbarton has been a huge missed opportunity for 30 years
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> First, are we sure this is the real Mouse...?
>
> Second, Diane is getting old, and well, you
> know...has been out of touch with reality on these
> issues for years...
>
> Third, yeah, let's build a new Bay Bridge, to
> carry 150,000 more cars onto the Peninsula, or
> into the City... But, at a land and construction
> cost of a new parking space, as my old colleague
> Dr. Don Shoup out of UCLA would advise, of upwards
> of $75,000 per space, don't forget to add in the
> six to eleven "billion" dollar investment in
> additional parking for those cars...
>
> While not at all an enemy of the "evil"
> automobile, or new highways, like the hairshirted
> nitwits, or the nattering Nimby's, it is these
> impacts that we often don't count, for schemes
> like this, but have huge costs and impacts (like
> the additional traffic on local streets and
> traffic delay costs) after they get off of this
> new bridge, that are "backward" bending in terms
> of exponentially increasing costs.
>
> Which is why a new Dumbarton rail tunnel, or
> bridge, and more commute and intercity rail
> connections into and out of the peninsula and
> City, would be more cost effective in moving
> "person" trips, rather than "vehicle" trips...
Glad to see you agree that the Dumbarton has been a huge missed opportunity for 30 years
