Re: Ah, memories of traction properties.
Author: synonymouse
Date: 01-04-2009 - 12:18

You missed the glory days of the PCC's in San Francisco. In the mid sixties they operated much faster than they do now. It's kinda ssd to see how slow they trundle on Market Street these days. There are so many automobiles.

Historically it seems that after the failure of the streetcar subway bond issue in 1936 or 1937 SF gave up on modernizing the rail system. The Market Street Railway lines were wholesale abandoned after the war and the flagship B line was a victim of urban removal in 1956 that wasted the Fillmore District and turned Geary Street into a quasi freeway.

My old friend in Muni told me that Muni management in the mid 50's wanted to bustitute the Twin Peaks tunnel but it was deemed too narrow to be safe, altho the Sunset Tunnel was found to be wide enough for buses. The J line on Church was saved because the neighborhood fought for it. Luckily Muni was able to secure PCC's from Saint Louis in 1957 on a lease-purchase deal that got around city charter limitations. The carmen's union had insisted on 2 man operation which played into the hands of the bus crowd.



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  Liberty Liner and Brilliner Drew Jacksich 01-02-2009 - 22:34
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Steven D. Johnson 01-02-2009 - 22:37
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Drew Jacksich 01-02-2009 - 22:40
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Freericks 01-02-2009 - 22:43
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Steven D. Johnson 01-02-2009 - 22:46
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Drew Jacksich 01-02-2009 - 22:53
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner T. Judah 01-03-2009 - 12:04
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Q 01-03-2009 - 12:25
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner synonymouse 01-03-2009 - 12:26
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner OldPoleBurner 01-03-2009 - 19:24
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner synonymouse 01-05-2009 - 10:59
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner P.Kepler 01-02-2009 - 23:01
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Tom McCann 01-02-2009 - 23:01
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Glen Brewer 01-03-2009 - 08:38
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner synonymouse 01-03-2009 - 10:59
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Freericks 01-03-2009 - 11:26
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner-Insull Steven D. Johnson 01-03-2009 - 10:25
  Third rail country . 01-03-2009 - 12:35
  Ah, memories of traction properties. Bill 01-03-2009 - 12:49
  Re: Ah, memories of traction properties. P.Kepler 01-03-2009 - 18:44
  Re: Ah, memories of traction properties. Drew Jacksich 01-03-2009 - 18:59
  Re: Ah, memories of traction properties. George Andrews 01-04-2009 - 09:53
  Re: Ah, memories of traction properties. synonymouse 01-04-2009 - 12:18
  Muni 1006 Bill 01-04-2009 - 14:39
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Art Reichgeld 01-04-2009 - 12:50
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner third rail 01-04-2009 - 16:53
  Re: Liberty Liner and Brilliner Freericks 01-05-2009 - 10:32


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