BOB2 Wrote:
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> Low ridership and longer trains, and on board
> wipers cleaning, on Metro, ML, and LOSSAN are a
> whole lot safer than at Trader Joe's...
> "Essential" overcrowded grocery stores may
> actually be a much bigger spreader, based on data
> from this surge, than outdoor dining...

-100% correct !

Friday
> at the Hastings Ranch Trader Joes, the place was
> so grossly overcrowded inside that I turned around
> and walked away.
>

-Very wise !

> How bad is this surge? I had a medical appointment
> last month at my local Kaiser, and there was a
> modest line of about 30-40 cars for Covid testing.
> I had to go get a test on Friday, there were 400
> cars, with a Friday night "In and Out" sized line
> of cars, for another quarter of a mile down the
> street, just trying to get in to the testing site.
> It took me 15 minutes to get out of the parking
> lot... More contacts, and less vigilance, big
> crowds, idiot who fail or refuse to follow
> reasonable precautions, and/or those who think it
> is their "right" to infect others have managed to
> make some of the worst case "estimates" quite
> "real"...

-If the sidewalk is narrow and the "folks" coming at you are not even trying to distance, look both ways and use the street to distance!

-Distance from one another is tool #1

-Following that rule seems to be enemy #1

> A socially distanced Metro holiday trip to LAUPT,
> properly outfitted with mask and glove, to get
> some fresh warm churros "to go" at nice open
> outdoor, socially distanced, Olvera Street, and
> maybe even a pick up a couple of taquitos "to go"
> orders, might not be all that risky... Happy New
> Year 2021!

-I was using rubber gloves pre-covid on metro due to staph and lord knows what else is all over those surfaces (feet on the seat is the least of the grime on the system).

-"Better" in recent times you report. I'm still not convinced!

-If the 2028 clean-up looks like the 1984 clean-up, I will return!

-Happy holidays 2020 to you and yours, BOB2!