Re: "Common Carrier"?
Author: FUD
Date: 12-24-2020 - 06:02

Beartooth Bob Wrote:
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> John Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > I find this an interesting thread with the advent
> > of PSR. Someone posted recently that the STB only
> > regulates rates. No mention of railroads common
> > carrier obligation to ship anything.
> > ...
> > Can someone in the now shed light on the railroads
> > and the regulators current situation regarding
> > common carrier obligations? .
>
> Thank you John, this is exactly the conundrum I
> have been thinking about for years.<

There's really not much conundrum needed. Staggers for practical purposes deregulated railroads. There's still a hazy common carrier obligation in the background, but it's expressed mainly in STB's rate regulations. Railroads adjust their obligation by rates: if they don't want a particular traffic, they jack up the rates to where the shipper goes elsewhere. If the shipper can't go elsewhere, they will just have to pay a very high rate; in that case, if it seems abusive, the shipper can go to the STB for relief, which seems to be seldom granted (would love a reference to a competent study of how that works, if it works).

"Common Carrier" seems to be trotted out periodically by roughly 3 groups of people:
1) those with no skin in the game, promoting interesting political views;
2) railroads that are trying to raise rates and claim that they have to carry the traffic, but don't have to lose (or not make enough) money doing it; and
3) shippers who want to move traffic on a railroad, but don't want to pay what the railroad is asking.

And occasionally 4) mumbling arguments about how much money they lose running Amtrak trains.

FWIW, trucking at one time was a common carrier operation for the large lines. It isn't there, any more, either. Other modes, ditto. The great deregulation push in the 1980s-90s pretty much extinguished the idea within the US.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Wow! You mean the concept of a "common carrier" isn't completely dead? Beartooth Bob 12-22-2020 - 16:46
  Re: Wow! You mean the concept of a "common carrier" isn't completely dead? ron 12-22-2020 - 18:52
  Wow! You mean the concept of "trains" is completely absent? TooMucher 12-22-2020 - 19:10
  shipping ron 12-22-2020 - 20:51
  Re: shipping Bruce Kelly 12-23-2020 - 05:33
  Re: "Common Carrier"? BOB2 12-23-2020 - 13:18
  Re: "Common Carrier"? Beartooth Bob 12-23-2020 - 13:29
  Re: "Common Carrier"? J.Edgar Whoozits 12-23-2020 - 17:54
  Re: "Common Carrier"? John 12-23-2020 - 18:50
  Re: "Common Carrier"? Beartooth Bob 12-23-2020 - 20:23
  Re: "Common Carrier"? FUD 12-24-2020 - 06:02
  Re: "Common Carrier"? John 12-25-2020 - 10:56
  Re: Wow! You mean the concept of a "common carrier" isn't completely dead? Dingbest 12-23-2020 - 23:39


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