Impressive move of the goalposts, BOB2
Author: Elwood
Date: 12-28-2021 - 10:40

This is the post I was responding to:

Author: FUD
Date: 12-27-2021 - 13:38

I've never seen a "rule of thumb" about the rail/truck break being 100 miles. Add a zero and you're closer. Even 500 miles isn't really enough for transport from a seaport to an inland port - that's a pretty close to a standard day's drive for a trucker.


I listed many markets under 500 miles served by Class I intermodals that disproves this. CSX, NS and CN offer multiple examples. More than I listed. Not just ports based, some domestic. Georgia and the ports of NYNJ offered incentives to create some lanes. CN provides the most options and short runs of the Class I's.

BNSF and UP choose not to pursue such markets because of PSR style profit margin worship. BNSF self-identifies as non-PSR, but their actions shows 90% adoption. A few exceptions like UP Houston to Dallas.

Short distance intermodal is a small part of Clss I total intermodal traffic. But not accurate to say not profitable under 500 miles. No hard mileage rule. just decisions on how to use limited assets like cars and chassis and yard capacity.

BOB2 with his favorite goalpost move of "Only us experts know truth, you message board peons" by demanding further proof by asking for unaccessible proprietary data or having to dig through obscure reports and records. Some of us have day jobs and don't have the free time of retirees.

The public can go to CN, CP, CSX, NS, UP, KCS websites and see the intermodal lanes I listed. PSR's don't offer those unless they are profitable or subsidized enough to meet their profit requirements.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses Robot 12-25-2021 - 10:40
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses lil'timmy 12-25-2021 - 12:27
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses Rudi Toot Toot 12-28-2021 - 17:12
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses George Andrews 12-25-2021 - 12:30
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses Hunter H. 12-25-2021 - 19:00
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses Railbot7 12-25-2021 - 19:40
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses Rasputin 12-25-2021 - 21:32
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses Time/cost and real competition?.. BOB2 12-25-2021 - 21:34
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses Realist 12-26-2021 - 11:38
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses SP5103 12-26-2021 - 14:46
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses FUD 12-27-2021 - 13:38
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses SWIFT 12-27-2021 - 14:59
  Re: OT : Pasco, WA, Amazon warehouses SP5103 12-27-2021 - 16:19
  Re: OT : unless you have a Prime Membership Orphan Amazon Locker 12-27-2021 - 19:01
  Many intermodal runs 250 to 350 miles Elwood 12-27-2021 - 21:27
  Re: Many intermodal runs 250 to 350 miles? Really? You haven't actually identified one that you can verify? BOB2 12-28-2021 - 06:49
  Re: Many intermodal runs 250 to 350 miles? Really? You haven't actually identified one that you can verify? ??? 12-28-2021 - 07:17
  Re: Many intermodal runs 250 to 350 miles? Really? You haven't actually identified one that you can verify? FUD 12-28-2021 - 09:27
  Re: Many intermodal runs 250 to 350 miles? Really? You haven't actually identified one that you can verify? SP5103 12-28-2021 - 09:39
  Re: Many intermodal runs 250 to 350 miles? Really? You haven't actually identified one that you can verify? FUD 12-28-2021 - 09:49
  Re: Many intermodal runs 250 to 350 miles? Really? You haven't actually identified one that you can verify? SP5103 12-28-2021 - 11:05
  Impressive move of the goalposts, BOB2 Elwood 12-28-2021 - 10:40
  Re: Impressive move of the goalposts, BOB2? Bad BOB2? Answering assertions with a question of fact? BOB2 12-28-2021 - 11:41
  Re: Impressive move of the goalposts, BOB2? Bad BOB2? Answering assertions with a question of fact? FUD 12-28-2021 - 14:51
  Re: Impressive move of the goalposts, BOB2? Bad BOB2? Answering assertions with a question of fact? HAL 9000 12-28-2021 - 18:05
  BNSF Intermodal Portland to Tacoma Bruce Kelly 12-29-2021 - 16:34
  Re: BNSF Intermodal Portland to Tacoma Offered at exhorbitant rates and/or uncompetitive transit times? BOB2 12-30-2021 - 05:04


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