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Re: Patience anybody
Author: Encinitas Eddie
Date: 10-10-2022 - 23:37
LES Wrote:
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> Palmdale will be a major junction for HSR, not in my lifetime, but it's a good place to start. As far as super distances with super speeds, LV, Southern Cal, and up the valley is a good start, ie, trains will actually be "high speed" over long distance, otherwise we just get more Caltrain electrification, diesels or Alstom Coradia iLins. Not what the voters voted for.
Meanwhile, the L.A.-San Diego line is currently shut down because the cliffs are crumbling at San Clemente and Del Mar.
You have to learn to crawl before you can walk and you have to learn to walk before you can run. Maybe California should have made its first effort at building a HSR line between L.A. and San Diego and there would have been a nice, new inland tunnel right now between San Onofre and Laguna Niguel and another nice, new, time-saving tunnel taking the tracks away from the Del Mar bluffs and under Miramar Hill. L.A.-San Diego is only about 125 miles and the line probably could have easily been finished by now. Public acceptance and support increases for other HSR projects when the voters actually see a train running and hauling people.
But, no, Jerry Brown & Co. bit off more than they could chew and now we have a half-assed HSR line that has kinda-sorta been built over the flatlands of the San Joaquin Valley---the easiest place to build from a topographical and NIMBY standpoint. Notice that they didn't build it through the mountainous areas first. Why do you supposed that was?
This is what happens when you have a bunch of idiots making the decisions and they bamboozle everyone into thinking they know what's best.
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> Palmdale will be a major junction for HSR, not in my lifetime, but it's a good place to start. As far as super distances with super speeds, LV, Southern Cal, and up the valley is a good start, ie, trains will actually be "high speed" over long distance, otherwise we just get more Caltrain electrification, diesels or Alstom Coradia iLins. Not what the voters voted for.
Meanwhile, the L.A.-San Diego line is currently shut down because the cliffs are crumbling at San Clemente and Del Mar.
You have to learn to crawl before you can walk and you have to learn to walk before you can run. Maybe California should have made its first effort at building a HSR line between L.A. and San Diego and there would have been a nice, new inland tunnel right now between San Onofre and Laguna Niguel and another nice, new, time-saving tunnel taking the tracks away from the Del Mar bluffs and under Miramar Hill. L.A.-San Diego is only about 125 miles and the line probably could have easily been finished by now. Public acceptance and support increases for other HSR projects when the voters actually see a train running and hauling people.
But, no, Jerry Brown & Co. bit off more than they could chew and now we have a half-assed HSR line that has kinda-sorta been built over the flatlands of the San Joaquin Valley---the easiest place to build from a topographical and NIMBY standpoint. Notice that they didn't build it through the mountainous areas first. Why do you supposed that was?
This is what happens when you have a bunch of idiots making the decisions and they bamboozle everyone into thinking they know what's best.
