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Re: Southwest HSR | CAHSR Brightline West Caltrain High Desert Corridor Combined , no rail-antiquary in the valley 2035
Author: Huddle around general obligation
Date: 06-25-2025 - 14:46
Ah Yes, the "HDC" Wrote:
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> Yeah well...
>
> And, if we were only the Deutsche Bahn..., right?
>
>
> The "High Desert Corridor" would potentially also
> allow for direct Brightline Service to from Las
> Vegas directly to LAUS in under 3 hours via HDR
> over to a Palmdale connection (which is a good bit
> less than the Metrolink transfer at Rancho
> Cucamonga).
>
> This was studied before the Victorville to Rancho
> Cucamonga connection back in the early 2000's, to
> run on a ROW shared with the LA High Desert
> Corridor "LA truck bypass" an interstate quality
> toll funded route from the I-5 to Victorville and
> I-15. The concept here was that the Brightline
> trains would run in the shared ROW, with almost a
> "freebie" in terms of grade separation shared with
> the High Desert toll road.
>
> Caltrans has since given up ever trying to relieve
> any of our avoidable urban congestion and/or get
> those unnecessary truck trips out of the basin, by
> howling mobs of screaming green weenies, who are
> okay with those trucks polluting the lungs of
> urban residents, and costing truckers (oh. and us
> "consumers") "millions and millions" of dollars
> form the hours of delay by coming across routes
> like the 210. Oh well, but the rail option was
> kept and even "cleared" if I can recall correctly
> (????).
>
> Now, back on planet earth, where time continues to
> run, and money is drained away on even completing
> the first segment of the line in the Valley, then
> for costly and unproductive gold-plated things
> like Pacheco, or the grossly gold-plated
> Bakerfield to LA segment, don't hold your breath.
>
> The shark has to keep moving to breath, and thus
> it is with the CAHSRA runaway money train. So, we
> must provide this kind of "hope" to those 2/3's of
> folks polled who "wished" that "someday", maybe on
> a distant planet "far, far away", that we will
> finally have some sort of actual "useful" HSR to
> ride at all.
You are the one that thought a general bond ballot measure in 2008 was the greatest thing you had ever seen since passing your mirror.
Stonehenge was constructed in several phases beginning about 3100 BC and continuing until about 1600 BC.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah well...
>
> And, if we were only the Deutsche Bahn..., right?
>
>
> The "High Desert Corridor" would potentially also
> allow for direct Brightline Service to from Las
> Vegas directly to LAUS in under 3 hours via HDR
> over to a Palmdale connection (which is a good bit
> less than the Metrolink transfer at Rancho
> Cucamonga).
>
> This was studied before the Victorville to Rancho
> Cucamonga connection back in the early 2000's, to
> run on a ROW shared with the LA High Desert
> Corridor "LA truck bypass" an interstate quality
> toll funded route from the I-5 to Victorville and
> I-15. The concept here was that the Brightline
> trains would run in the shared ROW, with almost a
> "freebie" in terms of grade separation shared with
> the High Desert toll road.
>
> Caltrans has since given up ever trying to relieve
> any of our avoidable urban congestion and/or get
> those unnecessary truck trips out of the basin, by
> howling mobs of screaming green weenies, who are
> okay with those trucks polluting the lungs of
> urban residents, and costing truckers (oh. and us
> "consumers") "millions and millions" of dollars
> form the hours of delay by coming across routes
> like the 210. Oh well, but the rail option was
> kept and even "cleared" if I can recall correctly
> (????).
>
> Now, back on planet earth, where time continues to
> run, and money is drained away on even completing
> the first segment of the line in the Valley, then
> for costly and unproductive gold-plated things
> like Pacheco, or the grossly gold-plated
> Bakerfield to LA segment, don't hold your breath.
>
> The shark has to keep moving to breath, and thus
> it is with the CAHSRA runaway money train. So, we
> must provide this kind of "hope" to those 2/3's of
> folks polled who "wished" that "someday", maybe on
> a distant planet "far, far away", that we will
> finally have some sort of actual "useful" HSR to
> ride at all.
You are the one that thought a general bond ballot measure in 2008 was the greatest thing you had ever seen since passing your mirror.
Stonehenge was constructed in several phases beginning about 3100 BC and continuing until about 1600 BC.
