Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!!
Author: M. Harris
Date: 03-16-2007 - 09:44

"...it was sad to see the trestle burn because of their inability to properly deal with the fire, especially in it's incipient stages." Consider the facts before condemning the Firefighters. This fire happened in a remote area, with difficult access, and no hydrant protection within 500 feet. Lines had to be hand-laid into the fire area, and relay pumping had to be employed. This fire started suddenly, as the leading edge of the smoke plume indicated, and most certainly had help from an accelerant (like gasoline) to get burning so quickly over so great a length. This fire involved massive creosote-treated timber and piling, elevated and well ventilated so as to burn unrestricted. Even if the Fire Departments had used water tenders (which they DO have), they still are limited by fire fuel load and the ability to get big lines on the fire effectively due to extreme heat exposure. In this case, the radiant heat exposure forced a defensive attack. Even the UP official on scene publicly praised the Firefighters for their work in protecting the bridge from excessive heat damage. This structure was doomed from the moment the fire started; no amount of water from tender trucks would have prevented its ultimate destruction. This fire may be determined to be arson, suggested by the fast extensive start of the fire.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire David Epling 03-15-2007 - 18:11
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire DAVE 03-15-2007 - 18:36
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire cajon 03-15-2007 - 19:13
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Dave 03-15-2007 - 19:33
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Mike B 03-15-2007 - 20:06
  AP story on bridge fire Charles Stookey 03-15-2007 - 21:32
  Any detours planned by the UP in response to the American River Trestle Fire??? Coleman Randall, Jr 03-15-2007 - 21:42
  Sacramento river trestle fire - Fri. morning Milepost 135 03-16-2007 - 07:54
  BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Crewman 03-16-2007 - 08:52
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! DCMcGill 03-16-2007 - 09:00
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! M. Harris 03-16-2007 - 09:44
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Cain Rock Yardmaster 03-16-2007 - 10:44
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! M. Harris 03-16-2007 - 11:13
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Cain Rock Yardmaster 03-16-2007 - 12:21
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Fred Putzer 03-16-2007 - 17:57
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Cain Rock Yardmaster 03-16-2007 - 18:10
  3 words Water Dropping Helicopter Ben 03-19-2007 - 09:24
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Bill Calmes 03-16-2007 - 11:22
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Bill Calmes 03-16-2007 - 11:26
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Al Stangenberger 03-16-2007 - 13:41
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Bill Calmes 03-16-2007 - 13:55
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Ben 03-16-2007 - 11:25
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! WAF 03-16-2007 - 12:40
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! M. Harris 03-16-2007 - 13:27
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Stevo del Applegato 03-16-2007 - 13:52
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! Bill Calmes 03-16-2007 - 14:17
  Re: BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!!!! OldPoleBurner 03-16-2007 - 21:09
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Mike B 03-15-2007 - 21:56
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire OldPoleBurner 03-15-2007 - 22:48
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire OldPoleBurner 03-15-2007 - 23:49
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Ed Von Nordeck 03-16-2007 - 00:00
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Ed Von Nordeck 03-16-2007 - 06:07
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Coleman Randall, Jr 03-16-2007 - 07:03
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Mike B 03-16-2007 - 07:28
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Bill Davidson 03-16-2007 - 12:11
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Stevo del Applegato 03-16-2007 - 06:35
  The connecting rail spur line in the Del Paso area??? Coleman Randall, Jr 03-16-2007 - 07:08
  Re: The connecting rail spur line in the Del Paso area??? Tom Krummell 03-16-2007 - 07:46
  A Railroad Fire Department??? Coleman Randall, Jr 03-16-2007 - 13:44
  Re: A Railroad Fire Department??? Stevo del Applegato 03-16-2007 - 14:01
  Re: A Railroad Fire Department??? David Epling 03-16-2007 - 15:05
  Re: The connecting rail spur line in the Del Paso area??? Mike Swanson 03-16-2007 - 07:54
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Matt K 03-16-2007 - 07:40
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Michael J. Isakowski 03-16-2007 - 08:30
  Re: Ex SP now UP American River Bridge on Fire Bill Clark 03-16-2007 - 14:33


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