Re: UP 844 on the BNSF!
Author: E
Date: 04-12-2007 - 12:28

I'd agree, Mike, and add a few things:

1. The NS program has been dead and gone for 13 years; UP's is in it's 47th year and still going strong.

2. It was SP, not UP, that banished the 819 group to the barn; and that happened 3 years BEFORE the UP merger.

3. Throughout the 1980's and 1990's, SP wasn't as hospitable to 4449 as a lot of foamers like to believe. Literally dozens of planned and/or hoped for trips never happened, because SP would not allow the engine out.

4. Too many "outside" engine groups have had trouble making their iron horses perform.
Hot bearings (2467 and 1522 come to mind), excessive delays (5629), low-water incidents (745) and other close calls leave a lasting impression on railroad managements. I will say that too often, RR managements, having been stung by one poor-performing group or engine, tend to lump them all together as something to be avoided. I won't even try to defend that attitude.

The point is, If you don't like the way UP does things with steam, go watch the CN steam program, or the CSX steam program, or the KCS steam program or the NS program, or the other many big railroad steam programs and engines out there.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  UP 844 & SP 4449 Excursion David 04-07-2007 - 14:51
  Re: UP 844 & SP 4449 Excursion William Nicholson 04-07-2007 - 16:07
  Re: UP 844 & SP 4449 Excursion Smokebox 04-08-2007 - 09:11
  SP 4449 on UP??!! Tom Krummell 04-08-2007 - 13:19
  UP 844 on the BNSF! smokebox 04-08-2007 - 15:20
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! E 04-08-2007 - 19:34
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! Dmac844 04-09-2007 - 13:43
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! David 04-09-2007 - 15:46
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! Paul Kepler 04-10-2007 - 09:07
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! E 04-10-2007 - 11:30
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! Paul Kepler 04-11-2007 - 10:04
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! John A. 04-11-2007 - 18:06
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! Andy 04-12-2007 - 05:16
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! Mike Swanson 04-12-2007 - 10:33
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! E 04-12-2007 - 12:28
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! Gunner 04-13-2007 - 09:20
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! Smokebox 04-13-2007 - 13:45
  Re: UP 844 on the BNSF! Don Hanley 04-17-2007 - 10:55
  UP 844-SP 4449 doubleheader? See www.orhf.org Margaret (SP fan) 04-17-2007 - 12:47


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