Dr Zarkoff Wrote:
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> >I'm not coming out for or against the cameras
> yet, but this is a terrible comparison.
>
> Oh really? There are far more deaths on the
> highways annually than Metrolink and all the other
> commuter lines (Chicago, Boston, etc.) put
> together could ever hope to kill (annually). So we
> should do nothing to try to curtail the highway
> carnage??

Irrelevant as to whether or not a company wants to put cameras into locomotives that they own. If they want to put them in to make sure no one pees in the corner, again.. its' up to them not us.
>
> >First of all, we work for the company that has
> decided that it is in their best interest for
> whatever reason to install these cameras.
>
> Apparently you haven't heard of the current drive
> to install black boxes on /all/ motor vehicles,
> from 18 wheelers to your and my automobile.

I admit I have not. If I haven't, the chances are that it's another conspiracy theory or really not that close to become a realization.
>
> >If we don't accept these cameras as part of our
> working conditions then we have the option to
> leave.
>
> And when you can't find equivalent employment,
> lose your car, your house, your wife. Some
> choice.

But still an option, if it is not a favorable option then get used to the cameras. Like we have to get used to 9000 other rules and policies.
>
> >I pay for my car, my insurance, my gas and part
> of the roads I drive on through taxes. That is why
> I don't have a camera in my car.
>
> The only reason you have no camera in your car is
> that some bureaucratic agency hasn't made you put
> it there (yet). Mark my words: black box soon,
> cameras later, all done with the excuse of saving
> lives, just like at Metrolink. How did the Fed
> Gov't institute the 55 mph speed limit in the
> 1970s? By using the Federal Highway Trust Fund as
> a lever: "You want this grant for a freeway, you
> have to institute the 55 mph speed limit". Black
> boxes next, cameras later. Just think how
> wonderful it'll be: just like "Der Zone" (East
> Germany) in the bad old days of the Cold War where
> 1/2 the population was spying on the other half.

The reason I don't have a camera in my car is because I haven't put one in there. I'm not against black boxes in cars as long as they are used after the fact as they have been in the airline indusrty for a long, long time.
>
> The interstate highway system was funded with
> Federal dollars, whether our taxes or not. So were
> highways like Route 66 in the 1930s. When the Fed
> Gov't gives you the money, it gets to call the
> shots.

Where did the federal dollars come from to fund the interstate hwy system? Where does the money come from to pay off the loans?
>
> Suggested reading
> :[www.amazon.com]
> ey/dp/0060850523/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=12
> 74833476&sr=1-1 and
> [www.amazon.com]-
> Orwell/dp/0452284236/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qi
> d=1274833578&sr=1-3

I've read 1984 just like every other HIGH SCHOOL student. My opinions and ideals have grown since then...