Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID
Author: Holly Gibson
Date: 03-06-2011 - 23:40

Dale Jones wrote:

He said that anytime a crew member was killed and it could not be corroborated by convincing evidence otherwise – they would always blame the crew…not the railroad. He stated that it was common practice the blame the crew and alcohol for any accident they could. They would not accept any responsibility if it could be avoided.

Nooooo. Railroad managements wouldn't do something THAT dishonest, would they? For a real eye opener, read this VERY INTERESTING article from the Minneapolis Star Tribune:

[www.startribune.com]

Something tells me that, with these forward-facing cameras that are being installed on locomotives, there's going to be a very spotty history as to their reliability. For example, if the camera records an engineer running past a red signal, or not blowing his whistle long enough at a grade crossing, the camera will work just fine and the video evidence will be made available for all who need it. However, if the camera records a "false clear" (i.e., a signal displaying incorrect information and pitching the integrity of the signaling system out the window), the camera will not be functioning properly and the video evidence will somehow become "lost" or "unavailable" due to "technical difficulties."

In the case of the Metrolink wreck at Chatsworth, we all know that the engineer was accused of texting and lost situational awareness. Less publicized was the testimony by some witnesses that the signal at CP Topanga was clear. Even further less publicized was the fact that the electronic device that the engineer was supposedly texting with was never found at the wreck site. The official NTSB report was very factual. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe it's mentioned anywhere in the report that the texting device was never found. Why didn't the NTSB state that in their report? What did the engineer do? Swallow it just prior to impact?



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  1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Holly Gibson 03-03-2011 - 00:59
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Graham Buxton 03-03-2011 - 05:30
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Holly Gibson 03-03-2011 - 11:29
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Northern Snowman 03-03-2011 - 14:28
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Dale Jones 03-03-2011 - 07:28
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID George Andrews 03-03-2011 - 09:52
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Butler 03-04-2011 - 07:54
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bruce Butler 03-06-2011 - 23:41
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID GF 07-17-2011 - 12:18
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bill Kuebler 03-04-2011 - 16:58
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Holly Gibson 03-04-2011 - 19:35
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bruce Butler 03-04-2011 - 20:35
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Northern Snowman 03-04-2011 - 20:51
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Graham Buxton 03-05-2011 - 05:21
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Jim700 03-05-2011 - 12:14
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Northern Snowman 03-06-2011 - 09:57
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bill Kuebler 03-05-2011 - 03:32
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bill Kuebler 03-05-2011 - 03:39
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Dale Jones 03-05-2011 - 10:48
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bruce Butler 03-05-2011 - 12:02
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Dale Jones 03-05-2011 - 13:35
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Linda jones 09-22-2018 - 04:33
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Northern Snowman 03-03-2011 - 14:37
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID factsareus 03-04-2011 - 22:26
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Holly Gibson 03-06-2011 - 23:40
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID NPRY Vet 07-17-2013 - 20:51
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Derailed At Granite Lake, ID Fredric Wolden 01-25-2014 - 21:22
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID David Mercer 02-17-2019 - 09:01
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Dan the Railfan 06-17-2020 - 12:38
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Castlebridge 03-03-2011 - 13:10
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID David H. Morse 03-03-2011 - 23:43
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID George Andrews 03-05-2011 - 08:57
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID DCA 03-05-2011 - 11:54
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bill Kuebler 03-05-2011 - 23:05
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Holly Gibson 03-06-2011 - 02:05
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck -- Do it @ Winterail !!! George Andrews 03-06-2011 - 09:16
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck -- Do it @ Winterail !!! Glenn Gilbert 03-06-2011 - 11:04
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck -- Do it @ Winterail !!! Bill Kuebler 03-08-2011 - 07:25
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck -- Do it @ Winterail !!! George Andrews 03-08-2011 - 09:49
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck -- Do it @ Winterail !!! Holly Gibson 03-09-2011 - 13:55
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bill Kuebler 03-06-2011 - 09:49
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bill Kuebler 03-08-2011 - 08:02
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Dwight Zorn 03-08-2011 - 13:33
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Bill Kuebler 03-08-2011 - 19:45
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  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Darien Chalecki 04-26-2018 - 19:39
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Craig Mahaffey 04-05-2023 - 17:17
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Darien Chalecki 04-26-2018 - 19:41
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID master mechanic 04-13-2019 - 12:50
  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Craig Mahaffey 04-05-2023 - 15:56
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  Re: 1962 North Coast Limited Wreck At Granite Lake, ID Coleen Sharp 08-31-2012 - 10:45
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