Joe, No Doubt You MUST Be A Cop!
Author: Civil Libertarian
Date: 06-03-2011 - 05:32

Joe wrote:

"I also watched Part 1 of the video (I did not watch Part 2...it's boring)."

Joe, before you formulate such a strong opinion about this whole thing, in all fairness you should have considered ALL the evidence and watched Part 2. If you were on a jury, the judge would have instructed you of exactly that.

In my opinion, Chris Fussell did everything right, and the officers did everything wrong. This video is equivalent to the Rodney King video. It's too bad that we always need some sort of videotape evidence to prove that police officers are doing their jobs all wrong. There's no excuse for the amount of misinformation that was being put forth by those Baltimore transit cops. Fussell knew the law(s) better than they did. Are they fully sworn, bonified cops similar to railroad special agents, or are they not much more than glorified shopping mall security guards?

I hope Fussell gets some sort of monetary compensation over this. If nothing else, he'll never recover the 35 minutes of his valuable time that was wasted in dealing with those officers. And "detaining" somebody is pretty much like arresting them. Fussell was not free to leave the scene and, had he tried to, that would have been the perfect "excuse" for the officers to handcuff, mace, wrestle-to-the-ground and beat-him-with-a-baton, and possibly even shoot and kill him. If he was coming at the officers "in a threatening manner, where they feared for their safety" --- as the official report would have stated, the cops could have pulled their guns and emptied them on him. The fact that Fussell never "lost his cool" was his strongest strategic manuveur and it pretty much took the wind out of the sails of the cops. The fact that there was no videotaped evidence of the BART patron who was recently shot and killed by a BART cop leaves us with having to take the word of the BART cop and his compadres. Isn't THAT a comforting thought! I believe there's a case from a resident of Oakland that went to the Supreme Court, and ruled in his favor, stating that citizens are not obligated to produce ID to a cop, merely because the cop wants to see ID. A law has to be broken first, and Fussell was breaking no law.

I really do see the beginnings of a police state taking hold here in the U.S., and because of so many people like you, Joe, who have a blind allegiance toward cops and will do anything they say, without question or challenge, AND EXPECT THE REST OF THE POPULATION TO DO THE SAME, that process will only be accelerated.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Graham Buxton 05-31-2011 - 19:31
  Re: Transit agency names Trackwuurk 05-31-2011 - 20:35
  Re: Transit agency names Butler 06-01-2011 - 05:30
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Michael Lane 06-01-2011 - 06:48
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 11:59
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 12:00
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 12:21
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe needs to chill 06-01-2011 - 14:03
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 14:47
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Definitely Not Joe 06-01-2011 - 14:20
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 14:49
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Scott Schiechl 06-01-2011 - 13:46
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 13:47
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Definitely NOT Joe 06-01-2011 - 13:49
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 14:39
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Scott Schiechl 06-01-2011 - 14:43
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Jooe's meds 06-01-2011 - 16:02
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Craig Tambo 06-01-2011 - 16:48
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 17:08
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Still Not Joe 06-01-2011 - 17:19
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 17:24
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Not Joe 06-02-2011 - 11:03
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-02-2011 - 11:44
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Not Joe 06-02-2011 - 12:00
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Richard 06-02-2011 - 22:35
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography 007 06-03-2011 - 09:11
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography agentatascadero 06-01-2011 - 17:00
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography smitty195 06-01-2011 - 18:24
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Not Smitty 06-02-2011 - 12:14
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Definitely--and thankfully--NOT Joe 06-01-2011 - 17:09
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-01-2011 - 17:27
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography agentatascadero 06-01-2011 - 18:28
  Re: MTA Transit agency chief agrees with ACLU on public's right to take pictures Graham Buxton 06-01-2011 - 18:34
  Re: MTA Transit agency chief agrees with ACLU on public's right to take pictures Joe 06-02-2011 - 18:29
  Re: MTA Transit agency chief agrees with ACLU on public's right to take pictures Joe 06-02-2011 - 18:31
  Joe, No Doubt You MUST Be A Cop! Civil Libertarian 06-03-2011 - 05:32
  Re: Joe, No Doubt You MUST Be A Cop! Also not Joe 06-03-2011 - 11:32
  Re: Joe, No Doubt You MUST Be A Cop! Dr Zarkoff 06-04-2011 - 06:42
  Thank you Chris Fussell. KUDOS!!!!!!!!!!! Brian 06-01-2011 - 20:37
  Re: Thank you Chris Fussell. KUDOS!!!!!!!!!!! OldPoleBurner 06-01-2011 - 20:59
  Joe is an idiot; ignore him... JS 06-02-2011 - 07:10
  Re: Joe is an idiot; ignore him... JS 06-02-2011 - 07:15
  Re: Joe is an idiot; ignore him... Freericks 06-02-2011 - 09:46
  Chris's story made the drudgereport! Brian 06-02-2011 - 08:03
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Same shoes as Chris 06-02-2011 - 13:44
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Richard 06-02-2011 - 22:23
  Best post on this subject JS 06-03-2011 - 09:59
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-02-2011 - 17:49
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Living Free 06-02-2011 - 18:17
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Dr Zarkoff 06-02-2011 - 20:37
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Brian 06-02-2011 - 20:37
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-03-2011 - 00:12
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Reality Checker 06-03-2011 - 01:39
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Scott Schiechl 06-02-2011 - 18:00
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Mike Swanson 06-02-2011 - 18:13
  Question about this incident Erik H. 06-02-2011 - 21:51
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Scott Schiechl 06-03-2011 - 10:19
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-03-2011 - 11:56
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Scott Schiechl 06-03-2011 - 12:36
  P.S. Scott Schiechl 06-03-2011 - 12:38
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-03-2011 - 13:03
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-03-2011 - 13:13
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Scott Schiechl 06-03-2011 - 14:09
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Joe 06-03-2011 - 14:16
  Re: ACLU tangles with Philadelphia MTA over rail photography Craig Tambo 06-04-2011 - 20:09
  Re: Are we there yet? OldPoleBurner 06-06-2011 - 12:54
  Re: Are we there yet? Craig Tambo 06-07-2011 - 01:16


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