Re: SP 4449 snd a bad taste
Author: Robby Peartree
Date: 07-05-2011 - 09:17

Dear “Friends of 4449 and Ed Immel

First off I was no where in the area but I told a friend in El Paso, Texas who at least considered riding this trip. Second your posts here to me smell worse than sour grapes. Third how ironic that people who claim to be representing a locomotive that was once a “Freedom Train Locomotive” that you would give such a display of apparent ignorance and self centeredness for people doing things within the law just because it was not profitable to you. Furthermore I unfortunately know too many people (including myself) who have had difficult relations with the 4449 family spanning the locomotives entire time in excursion service. Due to these poor past relations it is the reason I do not go out of my way to support a 4449 trip most of the time.

Now if you really want to have an impact, more communication (talking and listening) with the community may actually result in better relations and better results for the group.
When advertising for a trip perhaps you could not only advertise the trip with the seating ticket but also a chasers donation option. I think it would be good for a group to publish the profitability or lack there of for a given trip. I do believe the railfans would be surprised how little profit comes out of these trips. Too few groups spend the time to communicate educate the public about the economics of running a mainline excursion. If those in the know do not do educate people on the costs then how do you expect the public to even have an opportunity to know the cost involved and how to help you with them?

Respectfully
Robby Peartree



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  SP 4449 to Wishram Ed Immel 07-04-2011 - 10:02
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Tom Moungovan 07-04-2011 - 12:24
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Steve Whiting 07-04-2011 - 13:21
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Free riders 07-04-2011 - 13:58
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Dan 07-04-2011 - 14:05
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram up833 07-04-2011 - 15:21
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Ed Immel 07-04-2011 - 17:01
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Friends of SP 4449 07-04-2011 - 15:29
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Marty Bernard 07-04-2011 - 16:00
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Friends of SP 4449 07-04-2011 - 16:58
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Ed Immel 07-04-2011 - 17:03
  Re: SP 4449 snd a bad taste Robby Peartree 07-05-2011 - 09:17
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Graham Buxton 07-04-2011 - 18:14
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Rails NW 07-07-2011 - 06:56
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram BOB R 07-04-2011 - 17:57
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Friends of SP 4449 07-04-2011 - 18:13
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Marty Bernard 07-04-2011 - 18:21
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram "Buck", the Urban Logger 07-04-2011 - 18:34
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram BOB R 07-04-2011 - 18:30
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Friends of SP 4449 07-04-2011 - 19:14
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Jerry Jeffrey 07-04-2011 - 20:02
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram smitty195 07-04-2011 - 20:19
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Margaret (SP fan) 07-04-2011 - 20:42
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Arlen Sheldrake 07-04-2011 - 21:52
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram George Andrews 07-04-2011 - 22:00
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Drew Jacksich 07-04-2011 - 23:14
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Mike & Ben Pechner 07-04-2011 - 23:57
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Shortline Sammie 07-05-2011 - 06:23
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Shortline Sammie 07-05-2011 - 06:23
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Shortline Sammie 07-05-2011 - 06:23
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Sammie 07-05-2011 - 06:25
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram david vartanoff 07-05-2011 - 10:56
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Chris Fussell 07-05-2011 - 20:10
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Lurker 07-05-2011 - 06:25
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram/Correction from Sammie! Mike Pechner 07-05-2011 - 06:41
  Re: SP 4449 Whines Again Phat Phomar 07-05-2011 - 09:57
  Re: SP 4449 Whines Again Ditto 07-05-2011 - 10:01
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Samnberry 07-05-2011 - 10:43
  Re: Make Riding more Appealing PNWRailfan 07-05-2011 - 12:24
  Public relations disaster reality check 07-05-2011 - 12:24
  Re: Public relations disaster Jim Fitzgerald 07-05-2011 - 13:09
  Re: Sharing your thoughts Open Dialog 07-05-2011 - 13:48
  Re: How much and to whom should I give? Wish I had a million 07-05-2011 - 18:26
  Re: calendar supported by chasers Chris Fussell 07-05-2011 - 20:08
  Re: Sharing your thoughts TT 07-07-2011 - 09:38
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Just Me 07-06-2011 - 06:39
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Timothy Barham 07-06-2011 - 09:03
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram J 07-06-2011 - 09:55
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram I'm with him 07-06-2011 - 12:37
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram "Buck" the Urban Logger 07-06-2011 - 14:18
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Timothy Barham 07-09-2011 - 08:18
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram "Buck", the Urban Logger 07-06-2011 - 11:27
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Just Me 07-07-2011 - 06:35
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Smokebox 07-07-2011 - 12:10
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram . 07-07-2011 - 12:26
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram theconductor 07-07-2011 - 13:30
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram TT 07-07-2011 - 14:10
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Juppo 07-07-2011 - 14:37
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Juppo 07-07-2011 - 14:42
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Jim Fitzgerald 07-07-2011 - 14:50
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Fortunate Foamer 07-07-2011 - 20:57
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Juppo 07-07-2011 - 21:16
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Smokebox 07-08-2011 - 10:44
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Rails NW 07-07-2011 - 20:09
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Juppo 07-07-2011 - 22:33
  Re: SP 4449 to Wishram Big Wrench 07-07-2011 - 22:26


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