I keep seeing more and more that there really is no middle to anything anymore. I read these
threads, throw in my two cents, read the other sides and voila, Grand Canyon. I know a lot of
this is because half of us work with or for the railroads or in some traditional industry ie
we make things, use energy etc and the other half does clean and not directly (ie manufacturing)
productive things. No middle, a little hard to achieve concensus though if it gets hot enough
the energy/air conditioning thing brings agreement.