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Re: Occupy Oakland protesters climbing on a signal bridge at the Port of Oakland
Author: Juppo
Date: 11-05-2011 - 19:43
Trapped Citizen Wrote:
> Thanks for clarifying what this is all about -
> everybody has been wondering. You are not only
> justifying it, your advocating it!
>
> So it IS about someone else being rich while you
> ain't? So your going to "kick the established in
> their fat, posh asses"; unless we take it all away
> from them and give it all to you. So it is
> actually all about class warfare then - pure
> extortion actually. That then explains why you're
> trying to cause a run on the banks - to destroy
> the rich - but you'll miss your target and get us,
> and yourselves, instead! Fools All!
I don't care about money and neither do the majority of the people in these protests. It isn't about "he's rich, why not me?" Anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant beyond comprehension. Every individual person in this country has the right to acquire as much wealth as they see fit-ethically and legally. What these protests are about and what people are fed up over is ultra rich corporations and people getting richer by stealing, lying, violating all laws and the constitution, pillaging the land and then getting upset when they finally get called on it.
Class warfare? You're right, the war is and has been waged on the middle class by the upper class for a long time. Oh that's right, there is no more middle class, the established elite extorted it all. Are you serious about a run on the banks? Who the hell do you think is largely responsible for the housing collapse and crippling our economy?
>
> Well, as I said before, "one could have had some
> sympathy to the emotion behind all this", but you
> just lost my sympathy entirely. Envy IS UGLY! And
> class envy is the ugliest envy of all; just about
> as ugly as racism or any other form of bigotry.
> It IS pure bigotry actually.
Nobody said anything about envy. Only you. Bigotry? You're saying that the working man and the middle class who are sick and tired of following the rules and laws in life, working hard and being good taxpaying citizens just to have it taken all away by greedy, already rich individuals for no other reason then they can and they want to be a little richer are bigots? Are you retarded? Can you hear the laughter of everyone reading this thread and choking on their contempt for how stupid you are? What a tool.
>
> While there ARE critically serious imbalances
> between the various branches of our capitalist
> economy, that desperately need fixing (that's why
> neither Bush's nor Obama's policies will ever
> work); and very real problems to @#$%& about; it
> will do no damn good whatever, to merely exchange
> corporate tyranny for the inevitable tyranny of a
> socialistic government. Both will provide much to
> @#$%& about, and the need to escape from. But
> there will never be hope of escape whatever, from
> such a government. And if you can not understand
> that, you are "Useful Idiots" indeed.
Oh here we go with the Socialist crap. Ever notice how the only people in this country who talk about socialism are the most ignorant paranoid fools in the extreme right? I'm sure there are people in this country that would love it to be a socialist state. However, they number in the hundreds of thousands if that. NO ONE wants socialism in the U.S. Just fairness and accountability and a redistribution of the OBSCENE wealth ONLY.
>
> Taking to the streets in class warfare is not the
> answer! But there are possible solutions,
> involving deep corporate reforms, properly and
> sensibly vetted out in thorough congressional
> debate.
You are naive in the extreme. Trying to solve these problems through our judicial and executive systems that were bought and sold by corporate interests before you or I were born is the last thing thats going to happen.
However, you will have to entirely get
> rid of BOTH leading political parties to do so.
> They are both a HUGE part of the problem.
One thing we agree on.
So stop
> voting like sheep (uncritically listening to the
> media) and get on with it.
Anyone with the intellectual capacity of a toddler wouldn't waste their time voting. I laugh hysterically whenever people think they are having any influence on anything by wasting their Tuesday afternoon in a voting booth at the local church.
But stay out of the
> streets already! And leave the rights of other
> citizens alone!
Truly an Un-Amerrican thing to say. Go tell the citizens of the colonies in the late 1700's to stay out of the streets and stop making life difficult everyone else. Unbelievable.
> Thanks for clarifying what this is all about -
> everybody has been wondering. You are not only
> justifying it, your advocating it!
>
> So it IS about someone else being rich while you
> ain't? So your going to "kick the established in
> their fat, posh asses"; unless we take it all away
> from them and give it all to you. So it is
> actually all about class warfare then - pure
> extortion actually. That then explains why you're
> trying to cause a run on the banks - to destroy
> the rich - but you'll miss your target and get us,
> and yourselves, instead! Fools All!
I don't care about money and neither do the majority of the people in these protests. It isn't about "he's rich, why not me?" Anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant beyond comprehension. Every individual person in this country has the right to acquire as much wealth as they see fit-ethically and legally. What these protests are about and what people are fed up over is ultra rich corporations and people getting richer by stealing, lying, violating all laws and the constitution, pillaging the land and then getting upset when they finally get called on it.
Class warfare? You're right, the war is and has been waged on the middle class by the upper class for a long time. Oh that's right, there is no more middle class, the established elite extorted it all. Are you serious about a run on the banks? Who the hell do you think is largely responsible for the housing collapse and crippling our economy?
>
> Well, as I said before, "one could have had some
> sympathy to the emotion behind all this", but you
> just lost my sympathy entirely. Envy IS UGLY! And
> class envy is the ugliest envy of all; just about
> as ugly as racism or any other form of bigotry.
> It IS pure bigotry actually.
Nobody said anything about envy. Only you. Bigotry? You're saying that the working man and the middle class who are sick and tired of following the rules and laws in life, working hard and being good taxpaying citizens just to have it taken all away by greedy, already rich individuals for no other reason then they can and they want to be a little richer are bigots? Are you retarded? Can you hear the laughter of everyone reading this thread and choking on their contempt for how stupid you are? What a tool.
>
> While there ARE critically serious imbalances
> between the various branches of our capitalist
> economy, that desperately need fixing (that's why
> neither Bush's nor Obama's policies will ever
> work); and very real problems to @#$%& about; it
> will do no damn good whatever, to merely exchange
> corporate tyranny for the inevitable tyranny of a
> socialistic government. Both will provide much to
> @#$%& about, and the need to escape from. But
> there will never be hope of escape whatever, from
> such a government. And if you can not understand
> that, you are "Useful Idiots" indeed.
Oh here we go with the Socialist crap. Ever notice how the only people in this country who talk about socialism are the most ignorant paranoid fools in the extreme right? I'm sure there are people in this country that would love it to be a socialist state. However, they number in the hundreds of thousands if that. NO ONE wants socialism in the U.S. Just fairness and accountability and a redistribution of the OBSCENE wealth ONLY.
>
> Taking to the streets in class warfare is not the
> answer! But there are possible solutions,
> involving deep corporate reforms, properly and
> sensibly vetted out in thorough congressional
> debate.
You are naive in the extreme. Trying to solve these problems through our judicial and executive systems that were bought and sold by corporate interests before you or I were born is the last thing thats going to happen.
However, you will have to entirely get
> rid of BOTH leading political parties to do so.
> They are both a HUGE part of the problem.
One thing we agree on.
So stop
> voting like sheep (uncritically listening to the
> media) and get on with it.
Anyone with the intellectual capacity of a toddler wouldn't waste their time voting. I laugh hysterically whenever people think they are having any influence on anything by wasting their Tuesday afternoon in a voting booth at the local church.
But stay out of the
> streets already! And leave the rights of other
> citizens alone!
Truly an Un-Amerrican thing to say. Go tell the citizens of the colonies in the late 1700's to stay out of the streets and stop making life difficult everyone else. Unbelievable.
