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Re: Occupy Oakland protesters climbing on a signal bridge at the Port of Oakland
Author: Trapped Citizen
Date: 11-06-2011 - 05:33
> Oh here we go with the Socialist crap. Ever notice how the only people in this
> country who talk about socialism are the most ignorant paranoid fools in the
> extreme right? I'm sure there are people in this country that would love it to be a
> socialist state. However, they number in the hundreds of thousands if that. NO ONE
> wants socialism in the U.S. Just fairness and accountability and a redistribution
> of the OBSCENE wealth ONLY.
> Anyone with the intellectual capacity of a toddler wouldn't waste their time
> voting. I laugh hysterically whenever people think they are having any influence on
> anything by wasting their Tuesday afternoon in a voting booth at the local church.
> Truly an Un-Amerrican thing to say. Go tell the citizens of the colonies in the
> late 1700's to stay out of the streets and stop making life difficult everyone
> else. Unbelievable.
> You are naive in the extreme.
So let's see Mr Juppo, if we understand you correctly - all you want is redistribution of somebody else's wealth, but not your own of course - and you have no intention of getting your way via the ballot box; but instead by violence in the streets! While at the same time you demonstrate your ready willingness to abridge the rights of fellow citizens. I wonder what rights any citizen will have left, if your ilk ever gets in power, thus getting their way unrestrained.
But apparently, you are profoundly ignorant of history, as well as lawless. First of all; for the most part, those that took part in the American Revolution, did so via legitimate act of the Continental Congress, and by joining Congressionally appointed and regulated militias; not by rioting in the streets. And that Congress WAS ELECTED AT THE BALLOT BOX!
It did its revolution in accord with the established law of the land. There is nothing at all un-American about insisting that things still be decided that way - at the ballot box. The fact that you can't get "re-distribution" through that ballot box, is because only a tiny minority actually wants it - period; not because of some vast corporate conspiracy - which notion is just one more example of left wing deception (or is it paranoia). But what IS un-American, is self appointed zealots taking it upon themselves in the streets and back alleys, to get their way via lawless roving goon squads.
You must indeed be a product of the modern education system. If you knew anything about history, that even a fifth grader would have known back in my day; there is nothing at all to laugh at, when "Useful Idiots" such as yourself, take to the streets, so naively believing that they will ever get one thin dime of any "re-distributed wealth". History shows in every single case, that only the elite will get any, while you loose even what you already have. Your a fool if you don't know that already!
Well - go on laughing hysterically at my faith in democracy. When reality finally sinks in, you won't be laughing at all, but still hysterical just the same. History is full of examples of what happens at any attempted wealth re-distribution. In every single case in the last 150 years, the attempt destroyed almost all wealth - and the means to produce more of it as well. All but the very elite were then poor as dirt, and the people we're right back where they started from but even poorer than when they started - with all the wealth still concentrated in the top percentile.
But sans the inevitably destroyed middle class, there will be virtually no hope of upward mobility; AS WE DO STILL HAVE! I can personally testify that we have it - I'm a beneficiary of it! I didn't always have a business keeping 43 people employed, but with hard work. . . . .
Oh - and BTW, the promise of "redistribution of wealth", has been the center piece of "Socialist" and "Marxist" rhetoric, ever since Karl Marx invented the concept. You do know who he was - right. You have read and studied his writings have you not. Well if not, your own education is sorely lacking. If your had, you'd recognize "Socialist" rhetoric when you heard it. Karl Marx is the one that coined the phrase "Useful Idiot", to describe those that actually believed his stuff. But you're obviously ignorant of all that! Otherwise, you would have recognized and rejected it as the faulty dogma that it is.
Redistribution indeed - it ain't ever really happened, not even once in history - and it won't happen now; no matter how much of what's good about this country you destroy trying to get it - despite Obummers claims and promises to the contrary! Too bad, but he has proved out to be just another silver tongued @#$%& politician.
So get over it! History plainly shows that his current course has never worked before and won't work now. So do what I suggested instead, It has worked before! If enough join at the ballot box, terminally dump both political parties, and keep a skeptical eye on anything the media says; then eventually the needed reforms to restore balance can happen.
> country who talk about socialism are the most ignorant paranoid fools in the
> extreme right? I'm sure there are people in this country that would love it to be a
> socialist state. However, they number in the hundreds of thousands if that. NO ONE
> wants socialism in the U.S. Just fairness and accountability and a redistribution
> of the OBSCENE wealth ONLY.
> Anyone with the intellectual capacity of a toddler wouldn't waste their time
> voting. I laugh hysterically whenever people think they are having any influence on
> anything by wasting their Tuesday afternoon in a voting booth at the local church.
> Truly an Un-Amerrican thing to say. Go tell the citizens of the colonies in the
> late 1700's to stay out of the streets and stop making life difficult everyone
> else. Unbelievable.
> You are naive in the extreme.
So let's see Mr Juppo, if we understand you correctly - all you want is redistribution of somebody else's wealth, but not your own of course - and you have no intention of getting your way via the ballot box; but instead by violence in the streets! While at the same time you demonstrate your ready willingness to abridge the rights of fellow citizens. I wonder what rights any citizen will have left, if your ilk ever gets in power, thus getting their way unrestrained.
But apparently, you are profoundly ignorant of history, as well as lawless. First of all; for the most part, those that took part in the American Revolution, did so via legitimate act of the Continental Congress, and by joining Congressionally appointed and regulated militias; not by rioting in the streets. And that Congress WAS ELECTED AT THE BALLOT BOX!
It did its revolution in accord with the established law of the land. There is nothing at all un-American about insisting that things still be decided that way - at the ballot box. The fact that you can't get "re-distribution" through that ballot box, is because only a tiny minority actually wants it - period; not because of some vast corporate conspiracy - which notion is just one more example of left wing deception (or is it paranoia). But what IS un-American, is self appointed zealots taking it upon themselves in the streets and back alleys, to get their way via lawless roving goon squads.
You must indeed be a product of the modern education system. If you knew anything about history, that even a fifth grader would have known back in my day; there is nothing at all to laugh at, when "Useful Idiots" such as yourself, take to the streets, so naively believing that they will ever get one thin dime of any "re-distributed wealth". History shows in every single case, that only the elite will get any, while you loose even what you already have. Your a fool if you don't know that already!
Well - go on laughing hysterically at my faith in democracy. When reality finally sinks in, you won't be laughing at all, but still hysterical just the same. History is full of examples of what happens at any attempted wealth re-distribution. In every single case in the last 150 years, the attempt destroyed almost all wealth - and the means to produce more of it as well. All but the very elite were then poor as dirt, and the people we're right back where they started from but even poorer than when they started - with all the wealth still concentrated in the top percentile.
But sans the inevitably destroyed middle class, there will be virtually no hope of upward mobility; AS WE DO STILL HAVE! I can personally testify that we have it - I'm a beneficiary of it! I didn't always have a business keeping 43 people employed, but with hard work. . . . .
Oh - and BTW, the promise of "redistribution of wealth", has been the center piece of "Socialist" and "Marxist" rhetoric, ever since Karl Marx invented the concept. You do know who he was - right. You have read and studied his writings have you not. Well if not, your own education is sorely lacking. If your had, you'd recognize "Socialist" rhetoric when you heard it. Karl Marx is the one that coined the phrase "Useful Idiot", to describe those that actually believed his stuff. But you're obviously ignorant of all that! Otherwise, you would have recognized and rejected it as the faulty dogma that it is.
Redistribution indeed - it ain't ever really happened, not even once in history - and it won't happen now; no matter how much of what's good about this country you destroy trying to get it - despite Obummers claims and promises to the contrary! Too bad, but he has proved out to be just another silver tongued @#$%& politician.
So get over it! History plainly shows that his current course has never worked before and won't work now. So do what I suggested instead, It has worked before! If enough join at the ballot box, terminally dump both political parties, and keep a skeptical eye on anything the media says; then eventually the needed reforms to restore balance can happen.
