Re: San Diegan Question
Author: Bruce Kelly
Date: 09-17-2007 - 07:17

Yes, Coleman, you would not recognize the Surf Line today if you haven't been there since 1979. Even where the overall scenery hasn't changed much, like the cliffs south of San Clemente from Calafia Beach to the San Mateo River trestle, there have been subtle changes to signaling, etc. But overall, the route looks much different with new segments of multiple main track, the aforementioned commuter yard at Stuart Mesa, and the urban sprawl that has absorbed what little was left of the old orange groves and farm fields that once lined this route. I have my own questions: Are the daily manifests still the MSDGBAR/MBARSDG, and do they still use DP on the rear? What amount of intermodal, if any, travels the Surf Line? Reason I ask is that back in the 1980s you occasionally saw a short, solid TOFC/COFC train, and at other times there were trailers simply tacked onto the rear of a manifest. My 12-year old son has been adding an intermodal terminal at the port of San Diego on his MSTS Surfliner route, which I was able to only partially justify from my observations of the prototype years ago.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  San Diegan Question Coleman Randall 09-16-2007 - 17:43
  Re: San Diegan Question Adam Cox 09-16-2007 - 18:24
  Re: San Diegan Question Richard Elgenson 09-16-2007 - 19:59
  Re: San Diegan Question Coleman Randall 09-16-2007 - 21:20
  Re: San Diegan Question Robbie 09-17-2007 - 04:46
  Re: San Diegan Question Bruce Kelly 09-17-2007 - 07:17
  Re: San Diegan Question cajon 09-17-2007 - 08:57
  Re: San Diegan Question Bob2 09-17-2007 - 09:22
  Re: San Diegan Question Freericks 09-17-2007 - 10:17
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  Re: San Diegan Question cajon 09-17-2007 - 11:18
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  Re: San Diegan Question cajon 09-17-2007 - 14:32
  Re: San Diegan Question Tony Burzio 09-17-2007 - 11:22
  Re: San Diegan Question cajon 09-17-2007 - 12:43
  EXTENSIVE Surfliner + San Diegans History from Trainweb Daniel3197 09-19-2007 - 11:03


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