Re: 844 and diesel "help"
Author: theconductor
Date: 04-23-2012 - 17:49

Mike Pechner Wrote:
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> Couple of points I know for a fact, that SP
> allowed the #4449 to run alone without assistant
> except in regular "helper territory" Donner,
> Tehacapai, Cuesta, Dunsmuir, Pengra Pass. Out of
> helper territory, diesels were removed. If anyone
> remember the AFT, the #4449 ran along except in
> helper territory. IN May of 1999, UP ran the
> #844/3985 west to the dedication of the new
> Roseville yard with a 22 car train. UP had a singe
> AC44 BEHIND the Steamers and as soon as it got
> inside the Big Hole, it died leaving the two
> steamers to crawl up the 2.4% grade by themselves.
> I was on the train and when the train stopped for
> servicing at Norden, Steve Lee commented to me
> that another 30 seconds inside the tunnel could
> have been fatal because of the heat and smoke. Mr.
> Lee said he had a new appreciated for
> Cab-Forwards! Doyle McCormick uses the diesel to
> save water and give the #4449 a boost when leaving
> a siding. Hopes this help, Juppo, Good question!

Do you know for a fact that the SP 4449 never experienced a problem while not in a helper territory? If not, then your point is moot...



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  844 and diesel "help" Juppo 04-21-2012 - 21:48
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Engineer 04-21-2012 - 23:11
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Craig Tambo 04-21-2012 - 23:19
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Juppo 04-22-2012 - 00:14
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Tom Moungovan 04-22-2012 - 06:30
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Juppo 04-22-2012 - 00:11
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Photobob 04-22-2012 - 06:46
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" They do it too 04-21-2012 - 23:21
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" JuppoDKNVE 04-22-2012 - 00:03
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Butler 04-22-2012 - 03:37
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Margaret (SP fan) 04-22-2012 - 19:15
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Appreciative Railway Enthusiast 04-22-2012 - 06:22
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" fkrock 04-22-2012 - 08:11
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" nate 04-22-2012 - 18:17
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" E 04-22-2012 - 18:45
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" deano 04-23-2012 - 17:17
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Al Stangenberger 04-23-2012 - 17:45
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" E$ 04-23-2012 - 18:55
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" John Van Amburg 04-22-2012 - 08:16
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Rich Hunn 04-22-2012 - 08:43
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" George Andrews 04-22-2012 - 09:15
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" OTN 04-22-2012 - 10:16
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" E$ 04-22-2012 - 10:02
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Superstar 04-22-2012 - 11:01
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Will 04-22-2012 - 14:14
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Schellville Whores 04-22-2012 - 15:30
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Mr. Guy 04-22-2012 - 18:27
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Riverson 04-23-2012 - 09:06
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" !@#$%^ 04-23-2012 - 10:06
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Mike Pechner 04-23-2012 - 12:47
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Hogger 04-23-2012 - 13:00
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Superstar 04-23-2012 - 14:50
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" theconductor 04-23-2012 - 17:49
  Re: 844 and diesel "help" Gary Indiana 04-23-2012 - 18:58
  4449 and the tender issue Robby Peartree 04-23-2012 - 21:57


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