Re: A Note about Shirley's Bar...
Author: RVJ refugee
Date: 06-24-2012 - 11:22
Ken Shattock (KRK) Wrote:
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> P. Kepler Wrote:
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> > Ken, You have the knack for painting a picture
> > with your words. That sounds amazing and I will
> > try to be there. There are very few , if any,
> > railway museums that can boast an actual
> > destination for their patrons. That could be a
> > very powerful marketing tool for the BAERA .
> Now
> > all that has to happen is the installation of a
> > Wye or loop so some of the single ended
> equipment
> > can come out and play.
>
> Thanks for your kind remarks, Sir.. Originally,
> there had been talk about building a "reverse
> loop" at end of track (MONTEZUMA) (SN Station #
> 750140) MP 49.98
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> MOLENA is SN Station # 752140 MP 51.97
>
> RIO VISTA JUNCTION is SN Station # 758140 MP
> 57.78
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> DOZIER is SN Station # 465140 MP 64.55
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> SAXON was SN Station # 480140 MP 79.71
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> MOLENA has an existing passing siding. A LONG
> one..
>
> There used to be a passing siding too, at SAXON,
> but the track was pullded up by UP from Dozier to
> Saxon in 1993. DOZIER had a full WYE. UP pulled
> that out too. It is too bad that when the WRM
> folks got some 21-miles of track from UPRR that
> they didn't persuade them to leave in the Wye at
> DOZIER with maybe a 300-foot stub or so on the
> North End leg. Oh well..
>
> We used to always say that if there had been a
> farming family living at Montezuma named HALL,
> they'ed be known as the "Hall's of
> Montezuma".....
>
> KRK
Per my 1972 SN employee timetable, the siding at Molena holds 15 cars--not too long, but plenty for the museum's needs. North of Dozier, Saxon held 4 cars and Libfarm held 26. The still-extant siding at Dozier is 22 cars. The remaing line north of Dozier (and two legs of the Dozier wye) were not part of the museum's lease (which ended at the trestle just south of the Highway 113 crossing) at the time; when the UP decided to remove that trackage, the museum didn't find out about it in time to do anything about it. The lease ended at the trestle because the UP didn't want museum trains crossing Highway 113 for liability reasons. However, we regularly crossed the highway and used the wye anyway. Once the wye was gone, we used the Dozier siding to run around the train for the return trip. Still, having the wye remain would have been a boon to operations. Later, there was an unsuccessful attempt to acquire the land that would allow reinstallation of the wye at Creed.