Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams
Author: OPRRMS
Date: 08-22-2013 - 11:25

smitty195 Wrote:
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> It's easy for me to form an opinion because I'm
> not the one having the camera lens pointed at me.
> However, as an outsider, I see it as a good
> preventative tool. I don't know if anyone
> remembers this, but back when forward facing
> cameras were first announced, engine crew people
> FREAKED OUT (at least on another pay website they
> did). Lots and lots of ticked off crews---pages
> and pages of complaints about how bad it would be.
> At the time, I said that this is a common reaction
> and to "trust me" because once installed, you will
> be SO glad you have them because they will save
> your butt time and time again. And that has pretty
> much turned out to be true----the camera doesn't
> lie. (Yes, it has caught violations too, of
> course). But the same thing will happen with
> inward facing cameras. You'll get used to it,
> you'll hear the stories (or experience it
> personally), and people's butts will be saved from
> a phony lawsuit or complaint because the camera
> will prove that you were doing right.
>
> And yes, EVERY occupation has "that guy" in
> management who is a complete jerk and who will sit
> there and do nothing but watch videos all day (if
> that's even allowed under the rules) to try to
> find something you did wrong. You can't avoid
> that----"that guy" will be there no matter what,
> and every workplace has a guy like that. It's
> unavoidable. But overall, I think it will be a
> positive thing. Just think of all the videos of
> transients sleeping on the floor of empty units.
> :)

I think you've answered your own question, Andy. The current TIRs, alerters, and all the other supposed safety devices haven't stopped the collisions. Inward-facing cameras won't, either. So for UP (and the other carriers) to use "examples" is just a smoke-and-mirrors game. Until the industry gets serious about addressing the root cases, nothing will change. It didn't happen in the nearly 42 years in was in it. I don't expect it will anytime soon.

For the record, I personally have no objection to the cameras. As you correctly state, they can either be your best friend or your worst enemy.



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  UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-21-2013 - 13:17
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Matt Farnsworth 08-21-2013 - 14:12
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams J 08-21-2013 - 14:17
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-21-2013 - 14:38
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Fred 08-21-2013 - 16:54
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-21-2013 - 18:54
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-21-2013 - 14:36
  Inward Facing pdxrailtransit 08-21-2013 - 14:58
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams ron 08-21-2013 - 15:03
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Cp4449 08-21-2013 - 16:20
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Stash 08-21-2013 - 17:39
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-21-2013 - 18:59
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Banana Slug Zephyr 08-21-2013 - 19:49
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Stash 08-21-2013 - 22:50
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 11:13
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Jon 08-21-2013 - 18:23
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Jim Speaker 08-21-2013 - 20:28
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams PvtParts 08-21-2013 - 20:43
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams smitty195 08-21-2013 - 21:55
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams theconductor 08-21-2013 - 22:41
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Mitch Cooper 08-21-2013 - 23:24
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Mr. Mimic 08-22-2013 - 02:33
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams smitty195 08-22-2013 - 03:19
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Wal Mart 08-22-2013 - 09:10
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 11:37
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-23-2013 - 10:05
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Erik H. 08-22-2013 - 09:59
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 11:36
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Erik H. 08-22-2013 - 10:00
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Mr. Mimic 08-23-2013 - 20:46
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 11:33
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 11:25
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OTN 08-23-2013 - 10:58
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Erik H. 08-22-2013 - 10:02
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Put 08-22-2013 - 10:29
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 11:41
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 11:39
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Agent 99 08-22-2013 - 11:50
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-23-2013 - 10:01
  Text of UP's lawsuit in this matter OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 11:57
  Re: Text of UP's lawsuit in this matter howardwheeler 08-22-2013 - 12:40
  Re: Text of UP's lawsuit in this matter Capitol Hill Observer 08-22-2013 - 15:49
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams howardwheeler 08-22-2013 - 12:38
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams RWS 08-22-2013 - 13:11
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams theconductor 08-22-2013 - 13:17
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OTN 08-23-2013 - 10:23
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams theconductor 08-23-2013 - 11:40
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-24-2013 - 14:02
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Skonk 08-26-2013 - 10:54
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-26-2013 - 16:28
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-22-2013 - 13:27
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-23-2013 - 09:50
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-23-2013 - 13:21
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Pvt Parts 08-23-2013 - 17:16
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-24-2013 - 09:06
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams john 08-24-2013 - 09:47
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Pvt Parts 08-24-2013 - 10:58
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams howardwheeler 08-24-2013 - 11:26
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-24-2013 - 12:43
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-24-2013 - 13:56
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-23-2013 - 09:56
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams howardwheeler 08-23-2013 - 15:07
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Mikado 08-23-2013 - 18:33
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Mark 08-23-2013 - 20:46
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-24-2013 - 09:35
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-24-2013 - 10:05
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OTN 08-24-2013 - 10:19
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OPRRMS 08-24-2013 - 12:51
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-24-2013 - 13:51
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Railroad b 08-27-2013 - 20:07
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OTN 08-24-2013 - 10:27
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-24-2013 - 13:48
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OYN 08-24-2013 - 16:44
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-24-2013 - 18:05
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams OTN 08-25-2013 - 11:58
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  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-25-2013 - 13:56
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  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Dr Zarkoff 08-25-2013 - 15:53
  Re: UP to begin installing inward-facing Cab Cams Mark 08-25-2013 - 16:23
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