Altamont Press Discussion Board

01-10-2021 - 13:15

WebDigger

1. ABL and Jean Sweeney Open Space park -- Previously on AP

On 01-10-2021 - 00:10, OPRRMS Wrote: http://www.altamontpress.com/discussion/read.php?1,220022,220031 ------------------------------------------------------- > ABL continued in operation until 1998.
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01-09-2021 - 23:11

OPRRMS

2. Re: Alameda Island Map

TMer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here's a map from the Kansas Historical Society. > It's from 1951. The SP ran down Lincoln Avenue > when this map was drawn bu
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01-09-2021 - 22:12

TMer

3. Alameda Island Map

Here's a map from the Kansas Historical Society. It's from 1951. The SP ran down Lincoln Avenue when this map was drawn but later that portion of their trackage was abandoned (franchise expired?) and
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12-18-2020 - 18:58

OPRRMS

4. Re: The Mystery of the Santa Fe-SP Connection At Emeryville

WAF Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > OPRRMS Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Thanks for your input, Bill. It brings back a
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12-18-2020 - 18:38

WAF

5. Re: The Mystery of the Santa Fe-SP Connection At Emeryville

OPRRMS Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for your input, Bill. It brings back a lot > of memories. > > The SP yard job you mentioned was Job 543 that > we
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12-18-2020 - 16:18

OPRRMS

6. Re: The Mystery of the Santa Fe-SP Connection At Emeryville

Thanks for your input, Bill. It brings back a lot of memories. The SP yard job you mentioned was Job 543 that went on duty Monday thru Friday at 11 PM at the Homestead (at the Adeline Street end o
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12-12-2020 - 23:23

TMer

7. Re: Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

Crap. Put Dr. Z in the name field in that previous post, meant to put that in the subject field sorry. TMer
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12-12-2020 - 23:22

DR Z.

8. Re: Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

Thanks Dr. Z. I figured as much. I haven't really dived into understanding the SP's electric operations. But bumping into the remnants here and there. Alameda must've been quite a place back in the da
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12-12-2020 - 23:21

TMer

9. Re: Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

Thanks for clarifying OPRRMS. And thanks for mentioning the streetrunning on Lincoln. Somehow while perusing the aerials I missed the sweeping ROW alley running from Lincoln up to the compass west end
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12-12-2020 - 23:20

Dr Zarkoff

10. Re: Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

Much of the SP trackage OPRMS is talking about it residual from the electric operations.
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12-12-2020 - 13:11

OPRRMS

11. Re: Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

TMer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks a lot OPRRMS. One followup. Was all the > trackage on the island, outside of the NAS, > considered ABL? Like the team t
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12-12-2020 - 12:45

TMer

12. Re: Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

Thanks a lot OPRRMS. One followup. Was all the trackage on the island, outside of the NAS, considered ABL? Like the team track that was right there next to the lift bridge ABL? Thinking the 60's here,
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12-12-2020 - 12:40

OPRRMS

13. Re: Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

Now that I've looked at the map you've linked, the ABL yard actually had more tracks in it than are shown. For clarity, the southern-most track that's shown on the map actually belonged to SP, and
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12-12-2020 - 12:31

OPRRMS

14. Re: Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

TMer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here's a 1959 era topographic map detail showing > Alameda Island. Does anyone know where the > interchange tracks were in the
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12-12-2020 - 11:52

TMer

15. Alameda Belt Line: Info. on Interchange with SP and ATSF

Here's a 1959 era topographic map detail showing Alameda Island. Does anyone know where the interchange tracks were in the 1960s and 70s between the SP and ABL? When it comes to the ABL-ATSF inter
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01-01-2020 - 13:21

Commenter

16. Liftbridge that doesn't lower?

Just been sitting there... Abandoned by the Alameda Belt Line, former SP
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06-20-2016 - 08:08

J

17. Alameda Island Trackage Abandonment

From Today's Federal Register From the Federal Register Online via the Government Publishing Office ======================================================================= ----------
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05-12-2016 - 00:00

Biff Tannen

18. Foaming By Delorean in the Bay Area?

If you could go back in time for a day in the Bay Area to one day in history to watch trains and ride them, what year or day would it be and where would you go? I would visit San Francisco waterfr
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03-03-2016 - 20:45

Craig Tambo

19. Re: Spring Has Sprung on the Traction Company!

The former Oakland Terminal 97 and CCT 44 (ex-Alameda Belt Line) have gyralites. The 97 recently went to Stockton to join the Dieselmotive (BUGX) fleet, and the 44 reportedly is being sold to a shortl
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11-22-2015 - 15:52

OPRRMS

20. Re: Berkeley CA Historic Freight Operations

Bear Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > One further question: the ATSF main to Oakland > that you say was on the other side of town in > 1981. In researching that
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04-21-2015 - 22:20

WebDigger

21. Re: Western Pacific's San Francisco Terminus Demolition

mook Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A question semi-related to the original subject: where was WP's ferry dock? Looking at remnants of the line in Google (based on
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10-13-2014 - 17:42

J Mann

22. Re: Former Alameda Belt Line to Become Rail Trail

The article says the 22 acre railyard was acquired by the railroad in the 1920's. Was the land purchased from the city or from a private party? If so then 22 of the 28 acres would not fall under the
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10-11-2014 - 10:05

BOB2

23. Re: Former Alameda Belt Line to Become Rail Trail

Most of the businesses located on the Belt were in, or often connected with, the business of shipping and warehousing. They once upon a time used to use things like boxcars and ships with cargo sling
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10-11-2014 - 00:02

WebDigger

24. Re: Former Alameda Belt Line to Become Rail Trail

Discovery may derail Alameda deal / Pricey development might not happen if 1924 contract is valid Patrick Hoge, Chronicle Staff Writer Published 4:00 am, Monday, April 24, 2006 Alameda resident J
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10-10-2014 - 22:31

Shortline Sammie

25. Re: Former Alameda Belt Line to Become Rail Trail

Like has been said before: IT'S ALL CRAP NOW! Dick Samuels
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10-10-2014 - 18:31

Margaret (SP fan)

26. Re: Former Alameda Belt Line to Become Rail Trail

Lawns? In a drought? How foolish! Just where do they expect to get the water for lawns and gardens? And for those who say, "Use reclaimed water" -- all reclaimed water should be further clea
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10-10-2014 - 15:17

Mr. Clement

27. Re: Former Alameda Belt Line to Become Rail Trail

Now how in the world will they put a trail down from Grand at Clement to Tilden way? Straight down the middle of Clement street???
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10-10-2014 - 14:21

Not Evan Werkema

28. Former Alameda Belt Line to Become Rail Trail

The "Cross Alameda Trail" on Alameda Island, California FROM http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_26690221/alameda-city-gets-grant-cross-alameda-trail "The money will help pay for work on 3,6
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07-27-2013 - 23:12

FL

29. Tri-X archives: ABL at Night

Alameda Belt Line's S-2 #105 works late into the night. She paused long enough for a time exposure as a switch was being thrown. Note the trail left by the switchman's hand-lantern on the left of the
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11-17-2011 - 15:48

KRK

30. Re: The Old Oakland Central (16th Street) Amtrak Station Area Questions

Ah Ha-- I finally tripped up the good Doctor... hehehehe "Oakland Terminal Ry (which had been sold to the SP, WP, and Santa Fe to raise cash for the Key System" WRONG !! You should know b
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