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Re: Meanwhile, for the folks who come to AP for the trains.... Gold Line Testing... Questions?
Author: BOB2
Date: 09-01-2024 - 14:03
George Andrews Wrote:
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> With only one pantograph, I'm guessing both car "
> halves " are numbered as one " Unit " ? How far
> East will it be going in this latest build out ?
Most transit agencies consider the two segments of an articulated car as one unit.
This current extension will go another 9.1 miles from the current terminus at Citrus Avenue/Azusa Pacific College to Pomona, with stations in Glendora, San Dimas, and La Verne (opposite the Drag Strip and LA Co Fair Grounds), and terminating opposite the Metrolink Station in North Pomona. This segment comes in at just over $1 billion but includes a lot of grade separations (or about 1/2 of a 1.6 mile 3 station SOFI people mover).
An additional 3 miles and two additional stations at Claremont and Montclair are funded and under contracting at this time. This segment has always been controversial, because SBDTA refused to pay for it, as it costs $500 million, and duplicate Metrolink services at Claremont and Montclair, with so/so passenger numbers to justify it.
I myself found this segment to be of questionable merit, when doing analysis of costs and passenger loadings for the proposed Gold Line extension to the Ontario Airport, back in the 2000's, and nothing convinced me (or SANBAG, now the SBCTA) that it made much sense, then, or now. Nothing much seemed to have changed over the last 20 years, and LACMTA and SBCTA were not inclined to fund it (into another County that is not contributing).
So, the CA legislature, in its famed great infinite wisdom on all such things, instead chose to fund this project with State funds.
It's twice as long and has two stations for only the cost of "one quarter" a SOFI people mover, so by today's HSR scales of waste and bloat, it's hardly a blip in the waste of taxpayer funds than something like SOFI. And at least it will be much better used than SOFI, even with the relatively poor performance of Pomona to Montclair, when compared to other LRT investments we could be making.
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> With only one pantograph, I'm guessing both car "
> halves " are numbered as one " Unit " ? How far
> East will it be going in this latest build out ?
Most transit agencies consider the two segments of an articulated car as one unit.
This current extension will go another 9.1 miles from the current terminus at Citrus Avenue/Azusa Pacific College to Pomona, with stations in Glendora, San Dimas, and La Verne (opposite the Drag Strip and LA Co Fair Grounds), and terminating opposite the Metrolink Station in North Pomona. This segment comes in at just over $1 billion but includes a lot of grade separations (or about 1/2 of a 1.6 mile 3 station SOFI people mover).
An additional 3 miles and two additional stations at Claremont and Montclair are funded and under contracting at this time. This segment has always been controversial, because SBDTA refused to pay for it, as it costs $500 million, and duplicate Metrolink services at Claremont and Montclair, with so/so passenger numbers to justify it.
I myself found this segment to be of questionable merit, when doing analysis of costs and passenger loadings for the proposed Gold Line extension to the Ontario Airport, back in the 2000's, and nothing convinced me (or SANBAG, now the SBCTA) that it made much sense, then, or now. Nothing much seemed to have changed over the last 20 years, and LACMTA and SBCTA were not inclined to fund it (into another County that is not contributing).
So, the CA legislature, in its famed great infinite wisdom on all such things, instead chose to fund this project with State funds.
It's twice as long and has two stations for only the cost of "one quarter" a SOFI people mover, so by today's HSR scales of waste and bloat, it's hardly a blip in the waste of taxpayer funds than something like SOFI. And at least it will be much better used than SOFI, even with the relatively poor performance of Pomona to Montclair, when compared to other LRT investments we could be making.
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 Meanwhile, for the folks who come to AP for the trains.... Gold Line Testing...
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BOB2 | 09-01-2024 - 09:35 |
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Re: Meanwhile, for the folks who come to AP for the trains.... Gold Line Testing...
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George Andrews | 09-01-2024 - 13:22 |
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Re: Meanwhile, for the folks who come to AP for the trains.... Gold Line Testing... Questions? |
BOB2 | 09-01-2024 - 14:03 |
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Re: Meanwhile, it is no longer branded "Gold Line" ... it is now the "A" Line.
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2024 Delusional | 09-01-2024 - 14:16 |
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Re: Meanwhile, it is no longer branded "Gold Line" ... it is now the "A" Line. Poor little thing did I upset you again?
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BOB2 | 09-01-2024 - 14:41 |
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Re: Meanwhile, it is no longer branded "Gold Line" ... it is now the "A" Line. Poor little thing did I upset you again?
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It is still The A Line! | 09-01-2024 - 15:24 |
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Re: Meanwhile, it is no longer branded "Gold Line" ... it is now the "A" Line.
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Jim | 09-03-2024 - 15:25 |