41 years must be a magic number. At the end of last year I retired injury free after 41 years, trinkets be damned. The best safety instructors I ever had were the old heads. RR safety programs and the varying degrees of employee involvement in them is a long story. See [www.amazon.com], particularly the chapter(s) on the rrs' post-WWII discontinuance of nearly 5 decades of labor-managment safety programs. Compared to these, today's so-called "joint programs" are top-down, little more than eyewash, and treat safety as a brokered commodity which is spoon-fed to the regulatory agencies.