Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks?
Author: OldPoleBurner
Date: 10-03-2011 - 20:28

I think most railfans have plenty to worry about already, and don't need to worry too much about this.

But some of us are paid to worry, and also do something about it. It would be extremely difficult to directly tamper with an electronic interlocking per se, so as to produce false clears or conflicts. So difficult in fact that no one would bother, especially since there are much easier ways to cause trouble. I won't go into much detail here in public, but the most serious weak spot is in proposed CTBC systems using data radio.

But already, the AREMA CBTC (PTS) committees are aware, and are working hard on it - especially about how to absolutely prove data radio identity, before any train can act upon any transmitted command. Basically, if you can't absolutely prove the identity of source of the data, the most restrictive condition will be assumed until proven otherwise. Not a lot different than now.


Spoofing signals is not at all new. It has not been very common, but it has already happened, the most famous time being in 1963. See the link below - to see how easy that already is now. After the AREMA committees get done, radio based systems will be much more secure than things are now with actual physical signals.


Great Train Robbery



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? Holly Gibson 10-02-2011 - 21:51
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? Narlon P. Makewilder 10-02-2011 - 22:47
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? THAT guy 10-03-2011 - 01:30
  Re: Dumb and Dumber-the LATEST FEAR? BOB2 10-03-2011 - 08:29
  Re: Dumb and Dumber-the LATEST FEAR? NormSchultze 10-03-2011 - 08:52
  Re: Dumb and Dumber-the LATEST FEAR? Mike Swanson 10-03-2011 - 10:08
  Re: Dumb and Dumber-the LATEST FEAR? Painter Girl 10-03-2011 - 13:28
  Re: Dumb, Dumber. Dumbest? BOB2 10-03-2011 - 16:44
  Re: Dumb, Dumber. Dumbest? Mike Swanson 10-03-2011 - 18:39
  Re: Dumb, Dumber. Dumbest? Painter Girl 10-03-2011 - 18:53
  OOps Smart Painter Girl 10-03-2011 - 18:50
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? Berg 10-03-2011 - 11:02
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? THAT guy 10-03-2011 - 11:35
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? Mr. Guy 10-03-2011 - 11:18
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? beverlyhelper 10-03-2011 - 15:39
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? OldPoleBurner 10-03-2011 - 20:28
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? Dr Zarkoff 10-03-2011 - 23:36
  Re: Computer Hackers Causing Train Wrecks? crmeatball 10-04-2011 - 09:45


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