National Observer Wrote:
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> WAF Wrote:
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> > Yup, send them all back where they came from.
> Then
> > who will pick your vegatables, clean your room,
> > build your house? Don't tell me whites will.
> > That'a joke. Way too below them
>
> And around and around we go . . .
>
> Okay. Reinstate the Bracero program that was in
> effect in the 1950s and 60s that allowed them to
> temporarily come here and work in the agricultural
> industry. I have no problem with that.
>
> What is unacceptable is when they infiltrate
> occupations that USED to pay decent, livable wages
> and their presence and willingness to work for
> depressed wages brings the wages of EVERYONE in
> that occupation down. The construction industry,
> warehousing, fast food, janitorial, hotel/ motel
> housekeeping, ranching, etc. are good examples
> where this has occurred, and this is just a small
> list. There are many other examples.
>
> If the job pays a livable wage, people will want
> it. Conversely, if employers have a constant pool
> of illegals willing to work for depressed wages,
> and if they can hire them with impunity, they will
> exploit that option.
>
> Even Ceasar Chavez got pissed off at illegal
> aliens because they would act as strike breakers
> (read: willing to work for less than others) when
> he was trying to organize the U.S. citizen grape
> pickers in the San Joaquin Valley.
>
> Unlike Southern California, which is a lost cause,
> you can still go to Midwestern states and find
> Caucasian, U.S. citizens working at fast food and
> housekeeping occupations. The employers thus far
> do not have a pool of cheap, exploitable labor to
> draw upon, but that situation is rapidly changing,
> especially since the Obama Administration doesn't
> want to deport anyone who steps across the border.
> Just ask AZ governor Jan Brewer as to how
> frustrating this is.
>
> If the job pays decently, U.S. citizens will want
> it. Now that the Mexicans are here "in numbers",
> as you say, what were jobs that had
> less-than-stellar pay rates have morphed into jobs
> that have absolutely crappy pay rates.
>
> Blame it on illegal immigration because that is
> the root cause.
>
> The "What came first, the chicken or the egg?"
> argument that you're advancing doesn't hold water.
>
>
> Once upon a time, the jobs paid well. The "proof
> in the pudding" of THAT is that, once upon a time,
> there was an America that wasn't over-run with
> some 14 million wage-under-cutters who, from a
> legal standpoint, shouldn't be here.

You really don't have a clue.