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Re: SC&MB Plans To run _licensed_ Polar Express Trains
Author: wsabo
Date: 07-30-2016 - 09:24
KRK Wrote:
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> Graham Buxton Wrote:
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> -----
> > Polar Express name Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Caution: SC&MB needs to be very careful
> > using
> > > the "Polar Express" name.. So should Tony
> > Johnson
> > > at the Medford, OR railroad park. The POLAR
> > > EXPRESS name is trademarked by the studio in
> > > Hollywood ! Fact !! NCRy tried this years
> ago
> > > but didn't get too far-- that is why they
> > changed
> > > their Christmas train to the "Train of
> Lights".
> > > However, if SC&MB wants to be owned outright
> by
> > an
> > > outside entity, please continue onward !
> > >
> > > KRK
> >
> >
> > Well, KRK, if you read the document that Howard
> > linked in the original post in this thread, you
> > would see that the 2016 train is indeed the
> > licensed "Polar Express" train. According to
> the
> > document, IPH has worked out a satisfactory
> > arrangement to legally run licensed Polar
> Express
> > trains.
>
> Amazing-- Graham Buxton came up with some info..
> The cost to license these operations is expensive
> and only the parent company would be able to
> afford it. When Greg Scholl contacted SONY for
> the OK to use a two minute clip of SP 4443 at
> Oakland Pier during the making of the 1957 movie
> "Pal Joey", they wanted $ 4000.00 ! We said
> forget it !
>
> KRK
How was the two minute clip going to be used? It may seem greedy to insist on that kind of payment but it depends on the circumstances. Companies are entitled to a fair return on their intellectual property that they have spent a lot of money on development. If it was for a commercial venture $4000 doesn't seem like a lot of money. How as the clip going to be used by Greg? If it was for a one time use at some kind of railfan convention or in a documentary done by students or a non-profit that didn't have a huge budget maybe they would have negotiated a lower rate. I've seen the opening of the movie on You Tube with the train arriving at the pier. Is this what you were referring to?.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Graham Buxton Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Polar Express name Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Caution: SC&MB needs to be very careful
> > using
> > > the "Polar Express" name.. So should Tony
> > Johnson
> > > at the Medford, OR railroad park. The POLAR
> > > EXPRESS name is trademarked by the studio in
> > > Hollywood ! Fact !! NCRy tried this years
> ago
> > > but didn't get too far-- that is why they
> > changed
> > > their Christmas train to the "Train of
> Lights".
> > > However, if SC&MB wants to be owned outright
> by
> > an
> > > outside entity, please continue onward !
> > >
> > > KRK
> >
> >
> > Well, KRK, if you read the document that Howard
> > linked in the original post in this thread, you
> > would see that the 2016 train is indeed the
> > licensed "Polar Express" train. According to
> the
> > document, IPH has worked out a satisfactory
> > arrangement to legally run licensed Polar
> Express
> > trains.
>
> Amazing-- Graham Buxton came up with some info..
> The cost to license these operations is expensive
> and only the parent company would be able to
> afford it. When Greg Scholl contacted SONY for
> the OK to use a two minute clip of SP 4443 at
> Oakland Pier during the making of the 1957 movie
> "Pal Joey", they wanted $ 4000.00 ! We said
> forget it !
>
> KRK
How was the two minute clip going to be used? It may seem greedy to insist on that kind of payment but it depends on the circumstances. Companies are entitled to a fair return on their intellectual property that they have spent a lot of money on development. If it was for a commercial venture $4000 doesn't seem like a lot of money. How as the clip going to be used by Greg? If it was for a one time use at some kind of railfan convention or in a documentary done by students or a non-profit that didn't have a huge budget maybe they would have negotiated a lower rate. I've seen the opening of the movie on You Tube with the train arriving at the pier. Is this what you were referring to?.
