Re: CSX Loses in court
Author: Hot Water
Date: 07-20-2017 - 07:33

OldPoleBurner Wrote:
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> Have you been summoned to a Jury Pool, the group
> of people from which a jury is selected? I have -
> numerous times. In almost every case, I was
> thrown out on "preemptory challenge" as soon as
> the prosecutor or the plaintiff discovered that I
> was an electrical engineer. In one case I was
> immediately thrown out after I responded to a
> prosecutor's question thusly, "in order to presume
> innocence, I would have to also presume error on
> the part of the police - until proven otherwise."
> You should have seen his beady little eyes narrow
> as he threw me out!
>
> In one case - only one - I was empaneled on the
> jury; but only after the judge specifically
> disallowed several such preemptory challenges;
> saying that the jury must come from all walks of
> life and not exclude certain professions. He then
> explained that the side with the burden of proof
> typically wants to exclude doctors, engineers,
> scientists and other professionals trained in
> logic, because they are hard to persuade,
> typically having very high standards of proof;
> but that he would not tolerate such a skewing of
> the jury.
>
> However, in most preemptory challenges I have
> witnessed (at least a hundred), such prejudicial
> exclusions were allowed and no specific reasons
> for them were ever given. Though often you had to
> be dense to not notice the real reason.
>
> Not that I ever wanted to be on a jury, but those
> experiences have left me a bit jaded. I strongly
> suspect that since only one judge in a dozen seems
> concerned that each jury represent the broadest
> possible segment of society; juries are typically
> skewed - badly - not representative of the public
> at all. Indeed, juries are deliberately skewed to
> the lowest common denominator; dumbed down; easily
> manipulated; given to emotional persuasion; and
> unable or unwilling to see past the sophistry of
> cagey lawyers and rogue prosecutors (which are
> legion thanks to political patronage).
>
> In other words, as is obvious in case after case
> after case, of inexplicable rulings by judges and
> juries, the justice system in America is
> thoroughly corrupt; and will remain so as long as
> a corrupt political structure holds power; which
> in turn will continue until partisan political
> structures have finally been put aside by the
> people.

My sentiments exactly, and I too have encountered the results of being excused from EVERY SINGLE jury panel I was ever called for, simply because I was dressed in either a suit or sport jacket & tie, and was a degreed Mechanical Technician for the Electro-Motive Division of General Motors Corp. There was no way ANY defense attorney want the likes of ME on THEIR jury!

It's a shame the U.S. sort system does not select jurors as is done in England. A panel of judges interviews each and all prospective juror, and they, the panel of judges put together the jury panels, without "interference" from either side's attorneys. Then when a case requires a jury trial, one of the preselected jury panels is brought in to hear the case, and there are no objections from either side. Sure seems much fairer to me, anyway.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  CSX Loses in court The Carolinian 07-19-2017 - 15:12
  Re: CSX Loses in court Pdxrailtransit 07-19-2017 - 15:16
  Re: CSX Loses in court I'm not a lawyer, but 07-19-2017 - 15:58
  Re: CSX Loses in court Mark 07-19-2017 - 17:14
  Re: CSX Loses in court Money Hater 07-19-2017 - 19:11
  Re: CSX Loses in court Buffalo Bob 07-19-2017 - 19:32
  Re: CSX Loses in court MAPAZ 07-19-2017 - 15:23
  Re: CSX Loses in court The Carolinian 07-19-2017 - 15:34
  Re: CSX Loses in court Shortline Sammie 07-19-2017 - 16:25
  Re: CSX Loses in court LAS 07-19-2017 - 17:26
  Re: CSX Loses in court Sheldon Perry 07-19-2017 - 17:33
  Re: CSX Loses in court Money Hater 07-19-2017 - 19:17
  Re: CSX Loses in court OldPoleBurner 07-19-2017 - 19:40
  Re: CSX Loses in court synonymouse 07-19-2017 - 20:59
  Re: CSX Loses in court Hot Water 07-20-2017 - 07:33
  Re: CSX Loses in court jst3751 07-20-2017 - 08:20
  Re: CSX Loses in court OldPoleBurner 07-21-2017 - 19:46
  Re: CSX Loses in court jst3751 07-22-2017 - 10:34
  Re: CSX Loses in court OldPoleBurner 07-22-2017 - 12:15
  Re: CSX Loses in court OldPoleBurner 07-22-2017 - 12:33
  Re: CSX Loses in court Jim Speaker 07-19-2017 - 19:13
  Eugene. Harrison Hunter HH 07-19-2017 - 22:21
  Re: Eugene. Harrison Hunter Nooz 07-20-2017 - 12:58


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