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Re: New Tri-Met RDCs

Author: Pdxrailtransit

Date: 07-22-2017 - 16:58

Erik H. Wrote:
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> Ed Immel Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The cars were acquired to meet increasing
> passenger loads on the WES service.
>
> Except that TriMet:
>
> 1. Cannot operate any more trains (this is the
> agreement with P&W, as well as siding capacity,
> the lack of anywhere to store extra trains at the
> ends of the line as each terminus station is a
> single stub track)
> 2. Cannot run three-car trains (platforms can
> only accommodate two car trains)
> 3. Is nowhere near the first year ridership goal
> and has plenty of excess capacity (there is never,
> ever a "crush load train", while TriMet on a daily
> basis turns away bus riders because it would
> violate federal law by taking on more riders.) -
> TriMet carries about 1,900 daily riders, or 950 in
> the morning and afternoon. The first year
> ridership goal was 2,500 daily riders, and the
> expected ridership by now was somewhere around
> 5,000 daily riders.
> 4. TriMet doesn't need to add equipment; each
> train spends 36 out of every 90 minutes stopped at
> either Wilsonville (27 minutes) or Beaverton (9
> minutes), which is longer than a one-way trip (27
> minutes) - it simply could reduce the dwell time
> to increase equipment availability.
>
> But, hey, something good for the non-tax paying
> railfans to enjoy looking at, while bus riders are
> left in the dust and commuters are in gridlocked
> traffic because where they need to go, WES is
> utterly useless for.

Yeah well, since the 217 is the biggest POS excuse for a freeway I have ever seen, WES is worth every penny.

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Subject	Written By	Date/Time (PST)
New Tri-Met RDCs	Ed Immel	07-22-2017 - 08:44
Re: New Tri-Met RDCs	Erik H.	07-22-2017 - 16:54
Re: New Tri-Met RDCs	Pdxrailtransit	07-22-2017 - 16:58
Re: New Tri-Met RDCs	Erik H.	07-22-2017 - 17:01
Re: New Tri-Met RDCs	JOHN	07-22-2017 - 19:47
Re: New Tri-Met RDCs	Arlen Sheldrake	07-22-2017 - 20:16
Re: New Tri-Met RDCs	Tom McCann	07-22-2017 - 21:16
Re: New Tri-Met RDCs	Erik H.	07-23-2017 - 09:20
Re: New Tri-Met RDCs	espee2472	07-23-2017 - 16:41

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Pdxrailtransit Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Erik H. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ed Immel Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
> 
> > -----
> > > The cars were acquired to meet increasing
> > passenger loads on the WES service.
> > 
> > Except that TriMet:
> > 
> > 1.  Cannot operate any more trains (this is the
> > agreement with P&W, as well as siding capacity,
> > the lack of anywhere to store extra trains at
> the
> > ends of the line as each terminus station is a
> > single stub track)
> > 2.  Cannot run three-car trains (platforms can
> > only accommodate two car trains)
> > 3.  Is nowhere near the first year ridership
> goal
> > and has plenty of excess capacity (there is
> never,
> > ever a "crush load train", while TriMet on a
> daily
> > basis turns away bus riders because it would
> > violate federal law by taking on more riders.)
> -
> > TriMet carries about 1,900 daily riders, or 950
> in
> > the morning and afternoon.  The first year
> > ridership goal was 2,500 daily riders, and the
> > expected ridership by now was somewhere around
> > 5,000 daily riders.  
> > 4.  TriMet doesn't need to add equipment; each
> > train spends 36 out of every 90 minutes stopped
> at
> > either Wilsonville (27 minutes) or Beaverton (9
> > minutes), which is longer than a one-way trip
> (27
> > minutes) - it simply could reduce the dwell
> time
> > to increase equipment availability.
> > 
> > But, hey, something good for the non-tax paying
> > railfans to enjoy looking at, while bus riders
> are
> > left in the dust and commuters are in
> gridlocked
> > traffic because where they need to go, WES is
> > utterly useless for.
> 
> Yeah well, since the 217 is the biggest POS excuse
> for a freeway I have ever seen, WES is worth every
> penny.

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