Re: Drayage Operators
Author: ILWU/PMA
Date: 08-13-2017 - 13:07

GTH Wrote:
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> > > > > Are not the drayage operators also
> guilty?
> > > >
> > > > Technically, yes. But the problem is that
> > their
> > > > profit margins (if any,) are not sufficient
> > to
> > > > allow them to upgrade their rigs. If the
> > > > railroad's had to use their own truck
> fleet,
> > > they
> > > > would be in compliance.
> > >
> > > There would be no intermodal business if the
> > > railroads did that, due to high railroad
> costs.
> >
> > So you support a status quo that exploits
> drivers
> > and pollutes the environment all in the name of
> > the mighty dollar? Maybe you should look up
> > "hidden costs" in the dictionary.
>
> Maybe you should look up "reality" in the
> dictionary.
>
> Where did I say I supported anything?
> Nice try at changing the subject. But you
> didn't.
>
> This all goes back to deregulation. The first
> thing the
> railroads did after Staggers was cut, cut, cut.
> Because
> that was all they had known how to do for the
> previous 50-
> 75 years. Don't pay attention to new
> opportunities; after
> all those might cost money to implement.
>
> One of the things cut the most were marketing and
> sales
> departments. The Operating people all thought
> those guys
> never did anything anyway except go to lunch and
> play golf.
>
> Intermodal marketing was arguably cut hardest and
> deepest
> and it wasn't long before 3rd party logistics
> providers
> began to fill that gap. The railroads were not
> interested in
> or capable of designing service plans and selling
> those plans.
> They did not want to buy equipment (tractors,
> trailers, containers,
> etc.)
>
> So along come the steamship lines, who figures out
> how to get
> the railroads to provide locomotives and crews and
> transportation
> while TTX and individual lessors provided trailers
> and containers.
> Terminal operations (including drayage and
> chassis) were also
> farmed out.
>
> So, the difference between the rate the 3pl's
> charge and what they
> pay the railroads for the road haul got larger.
> RR's thought they
> were really doing something, not realizing they
> were leaving a LOT
> of money on the table for the 3pl's to make.
> Essentially, the
> 3pls became retailers and the railroads were
> reduced to being
> wholesalers.
>
> So, if you want to @#$%& and whine about the
> drayage drivers'
> plight (which is real and which I am NOT
> defending), you need
> to improve your target selection and aim.
>
> You might then learn that most dockside terminals
> are not owned and
> not operated by railroads. Railroads also have
> little to no say in
> how drayage contractors are hired or what they are
> paid.

Railroads are full of slaves



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Railroads fined for not reporting dirty diesel trucks at SoCal rail yards Pdxrailtransit 08-12-2017 - 10:26
  Re: Railroads fined for not reporting dirty diesel trucks at SoCal rail yards jst3751 08-12-2017 - 15:10
  . . 08-12-2017 - 17:43
  Drayage Operators Pdxrailtransit 08-12-2017 - 17:52
  Re: Drayage Operators Ken 08-12-2017 - 20:30
  Re: Drayage Operators FEF-1 08-12-2017 - 21:14
  Re: Drayage Operators Pdxrailtransit 08-12-2017 - 21:32
  Re: Drayage Operators Pdxrailtransit 08-12-2017 - 22:32
  Re: Drayage Operators GTH 08-13-2017 - 10:59
  Re: Drayage Operators Pdxrailtransit 08-13-2017 - 12:29
  Re: Drayage Operators GTH 08-13-2017 - 12:47
  Re: Drayage Operators Pdxrailtransit 08-13-2017 - 13:07
  Re: Drayage Operators GTH 08-13-2017 - 14:24
  Re: Drayage Operators Fidel 08-15-2017 - 21:54
  Re: Drayage Operators Graham Buxton 08-13-2017 - 15:37
  Re: Drayage Operators ILWU/PMA 08-13-2017 - 13:07
  Two, count 'em, two trolls in one (thread) Commenter 08-13-2017 - 14:42
  Re: Two, count 'em, two trolls in one (thread) George Andrews 08-14-2017 - 17:14
  Re: Two, count 'em, two trolls in one (thread) FEF-3 08-14-2017 - 21:28


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