Hot Water Wrote:
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> jst3751 Wrote:
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> > Sgt. Joe Friday Wrote:
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> > > And for all the bad publicity SP received
> (some
> > of
> > > it deserved, I think) about their attitude
> > toward
> > > passenger trains pre-Amtrak, the SP equipment
> > that
> > > went to Amtrak was generally in good
> condition.
> > > Maybe not to the same standard as the ATSF
> > rolling
> > > stock, but a high percentage of Amtrak's
> > starting
> > > fleet came from SP, UP, ATSF, and BN.
> >
> > ATSF? Didn't ATSF continue to operate their own
> > passenger trains for several years, "selling"
> them
> > to Amtrak at a later date?
>
> Nope. What Santa Fe DID do, however, was to allow
> Amtrak to continue to use the name "Super Chief"
> until the level of customer service deteriorated
> to the point that AT&SF President John Reed took
> the name "super Chief" back, and refused to allow
> Amtrak to use it. Thus, we now have the "Southwest
> Chief".

Wrong.

After Santa Fe no longer allowed Amtrak to use the Super Chief name in 1974, trains 3 & 4 became the Southwest Limited. In October 1984, Santa Fe felt that service and conditions sufficiently improved that it allowed Amtrak to use the Chief name again and trains 3 and 4 became the Southwest Chief.