Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right?
Author: clueless
Date: 07-09-2019 - 10:04

What does parking or driving have to do with it?

A $3.00 price < $12.00 price regardless of parking or driving savings.

Hillsboro to PDX is about 30 miles, no parking or driving involved on public service of Max and cost 3.00. The privately owned Denver to DIA line is 23 miles at $12.00, and no parking or driving involved.

I can't think of an airport line that cost more than DIAs.


BOB2 Wrote:
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> Skeptic,
>
> You do know that the fully allocated cost to
> operate your vehicle in around 80 cents a mile
> (most folks forget insurance and depreciation
> mileage costs), right?
>
> Now, I know that Uber and Lyft expect some of you
> to operate your vehicle for them at less that the
> average cost per mile to operate. but, at least
> you can deduct that (as "independent contractors"
> for these exploititive a$$ pirates) excess amount
> from your income taxes....right?
>
> And, what is the "market rate" cost per day to
> park at Denver's airport? Does it average a wee
> bit more than $12 a day to park your car at the
> airport?
>
> So called "free" parking is one of the biggest
> "gubmint" mandated auto subsidies, where the local
> "gubmint" requires often much more parking than is
> required or used, as a condition of development.
>
>
> With a new parking structure space costing over
> $100,000 per space, and Stan Hart's old estimate
> of 40% of urban land space (billions in land costs
> alone) dedicated to roads and parking, Professor
> Don Shoup, my old "contractor" and pal at UCLA,
> has called this one of the biggest 9and largely
> "hidden") "gubmint" (aka "socialist")subsidies to
> auto use.
>
> And, finally, what does it really cost to operate
> that train?
>
> Even though the US has fallen from the top ten in
> the year I was born, to around 43rd among nations
> today, in purported adult math and science
> "numeracy" (being "literate" with them there
> "numbers" for those who are illiterate, as well),
> but most of us can all still do this math, right?
>
>
> Time value (especially with long wait times) and
> cost are what really matter in observed travel
> behavior choice, as FUD rightly notes....
>
> Which is probably why I am even a bigger "skeptic"
> than you are....



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit Joe Cullum 07-09-2019 - 00:58
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Yep, but they have no "visions", they don;t take enough drugs.... BOB2 07-09-2019 - 05:09
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Yep, but they have no "visions", they don;t take enough drugs.... FUD 07-09-2019 - 08:33
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit skeptic 07-09-2019 - 08:45
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit les 07-09-2019 - 09:30
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right? BOB2 07-09-2019 - 09:53
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right? clueless 07-09-2019 - 10:04
  Re: Clueless wants a "free ride".because it is even less than $3.00, right? BOB2 07-09-2019 - 10:11
  Re: Clueless wants a "free ride".because it is even less than $3.00, right? free tickets to paradise - I saw Eddi 07-09-2019 - 11:07
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right? FUD 07-09-2019 - 11:55
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right? build in bay area then 07-09-2019 - 12:13
  Re:What does the data on Portland and Denver say about cost per passenger and cost per passenger mile, then we'll discuss who should be "subsidized"? BOB2 07-09-2019 - 13:45
  Re: Re:What does the data on Portland and Denver say about cost per passenger and cost per passenger mile, then we'll discuss who should be "subsidized"? les 07-09-2019 - 14:03
  correction les 07-09-2019 - 14:13
  You should really take up a course on how to use the internet. Community Colleges offer courses on n 07-09-2019 - 14:15
  Re:Trimet has a 66% farebox recovery rate, not 45%, that's pretty good, but does not answer the question.. BOB2 07-09-2019 - 14:59
  Re: Re:Trimet Max has 46% farebox recovery rate accoording to the table??? BOB2 07-09-2019 - 16:09


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