Re: Re:What does the data on Portland and Denver say about cost per passenger and cost per passenger mile, then we'll discuss who should be "subsidized"?
Author: les
Date: 07-09-2019 - 14:03

Urban construction is always more expensive than rural. Just look at the Fresno trench. What was that, 1 billion for 1 mi. Rural land is always cheaper, no comparison. There is nothing much east of Denver on route to DIA.

$1.2 billion: Construction cost (Denver Post) 23 miles.
$52 million: Cost per mile ($32 million cost per km) (Streetsblog)
Cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap.


Portland Max $2.50 for ride from Hillsboro to PDX. Max was subsidized at $3.00/ride in 2015, I assume cheaper now.


BOB2 Wrote:
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> Does anyone have the farebox ratio and average
> cost per passenger mile for the Portland line?
> Then, we could clearly compare and contrast, the
> costs and benefits of these two systems, using
> math.....?
>
> It would be interesting to do the math on the
> subsidy per passenger and more important per
> passenger mile, from downtown Portland to the
> Airport, and compare the total cost with subsidy
> (and other differentials like travel time) to the
> passenger volumes generated, by Denver?
>
> But, where did "build in bay area" come up this
> line of nonsense about building to DIA being so
> much cheaper across the prairie? Do the farmers
> who own that "prairie", now located between DIA,
> and one of the fastest growing urban centers in
> America, really want to sell them ROW for so much
> less? Is the cost of track construction per mile
> really somehow cheaper on the "prairie" of the
> Denver metro region...?



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit Joe Cullum 07-09-2019 - 00:58
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Yep, but they have no "visions", they don;t take enough drugs.... BOB2 07-09-2019 - 05:09
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Yep, but they have no "visions", they don;t take enough drugs.... FUD 07-09-2019 - 08:33
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit skeptic 07-09-2019 - 08:45
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit les 07-09-2019 - 09:30
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right? BOB2 07-09-2019 - 09:53
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right? clueless 07-09-2019 - 10:04
  Re: Clueless wants a "free ride".because it is even less than $3.00, right? BOB2 07-09-2019 - 10:11
  Re: Clueless wants a "free ride".because it is even less than $3.00, right? free tickets to paradise - I saw Eddi 07-09-2019 - 11:07
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right? FUD 07-09-2019 - 11:55
  Re: Good read: Capitalism can boost Transit-Everybody wants a "free ride".and "free parking", right? build in bay area then 07-09-2019 - 12:13
  Re:What does the data on Portland and Denver say about cost per passenger and cost per passenger mile, then we'll discuss who should be "subsidized"? BOB2 07-09-2019 - 13:45
  Re: Re:What does the data on Portland and Denver say about cost per passenger and cost per passenger mile, then we'll discuss who should be "subsidized"? les 07-09-2019 - 14:03
  correction les 07-09-2019 - 14:13
  You should really take up a course on how to use the internet. Community Colleges offer courses on n 07-09-2019 - 14:15
  Re:Trimet has a 66% farebox recovery rate, not 45%, that's pretty good, but does not answer the question.. BOB2 07-09-2019 - 14:59
  Re: Re:Trimet Max has 46% farebox recovery rate accoording to the table??? BOB2 07-09-2019 - 16:09


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