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Missing from Winterrail 2025? Not all that is missing, except crime, foam and our late pals (and maybe 1985)
Author: Crystal ballin'
Date: 03-07-2025 - 12:34
Just Sayin... Wrote:
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> Winterail had problems selling tickets in Stockton
> -- because it was IN STOCKTON !!! The city
> regularly makes the TOP TEN list of dangerous
> California cities. In addition, The Scottish Rite
> Temple facility had become quite run down, with
> A/C and plumbing issues.
> Is Corvallis the answer ??? Vic & Annie think so,
> as do those who still attend. Corvallis High
> School Auditorium is " The Right Size " for
> today's crowd, and it's good to see " The NEXT
> Generation " in attendance. The Willamette Valley
> is quite nice this time of year, with many nice
> hotels & restaurants, and The Willamette & Pacific
> RR. running right through town, as well as nearby
> Albany & Eastern, and CORP, with its' new
> switching agreement for Ewe-Pee's Eugene Yard,
> should make for a full Friday of fanning. Just
> Sayin...
WINTERAIL 2016
Author: Ken Shattock (KRK)
Date: 09-18-2015 - 17:21
Hi Everybody--
In today's mail I received my letter from Vic Neves regarding Winterail-2016 in Corvallis, Oregon. Boy, do I already like the changes he and Annie have made! No sales permits for State or City unlike Stockton or California. Great!
„h Latest News
„h Traditionally, we had the event on the 2nd weekend of March. That will be no more. Because of school scheduling considerations and to be able to use optimum space at Corvallis High School, we are now scheduled for the 3rd weekend of March, Saturday, March 19th 2016. Mark your calendars for the third weekend of March for 2016.....and beyond!
Cheryl Meeker is no longer involved with the Dealers and Vendors. Vic and Annie are going to be handling EVERYTHING !! Of course, Dr. Werkema will have something to say, I'm sure! I'll be there, I won't have a long commute. But that might scare you guys away!
Take care, everybody!
Re: WINTERAIL 2016
Author: SP3878
Date: 09-19-2015 - 18:07
Your comment about Stockton is both tired and inaccurate as it applies to Winterail. Yes, Stockton is going downhill, but the area directly adjacent to the Scottish Rite Temple (where Winterail was held) is about the same as it's been for 20 years, i.e. still very decent, IMHO.
I've never thought twice about being in the parking lot at night, or parking my car on the residential streets within walking distance. That one little pocket of Stockton is probably nicer than many sections of Portland.
Re: WINTERAIL 2016
Author: Craig Tambo
Date: 09-20-2015 - 19:08
Two observations on this thread--
1. Yes, Stockton is a hellhole, and has been for a long time. (It certainly was when I hired out on the WP there in the late '70s.) However, if you've ever done any urban train-chasing, you're probably quite familiar with that kind of environment (and, no, I'm not talking about the neighborhood where Winterail took place all those years).
2. As for the financial burden of travelling to the new venue: if there's things you want to do but can't afford it, that's just the way it is. This is true whether it's a European vacation, taking the kids to Disneyland, or going to Winterail in Corvallis. It's unfortunate, but you just have to do what you can.
Re: WINTERAIL 2016
Author: Wayne Cohen
Date: 09-21-2015 - 10:09
Suggesting that Vic needs to realize the impact of the move to past attendees is beside the point. The bottom line is that he retired and he and Anne moved to Oregon. Winterail in Stockton was not going to happen. It will be in Oregon, or it will not happen.
In it's new home, Winterail will be a success, a failure, or somewhere in between. With a much nicer, slightly smaller venue, and considering the untapped potential of Pacific Northwest region attendees, I predict Winterail 16 will be closer to the success end of the continuum.
Pizza Party, Winterail 2011 and the Drive Home Part 3
by Chris Guenzler
Dave, Chris Parker and I left the Double T Ranch and made our way back out to California Highway 140 which we took across the San Joaquin River to Gustine, where we turned north onto California Highway 33. We reached Newman when we saw a southbound California Northern train approaching so made a quick U turn and readied ourselves.
Was interesting.
Ray Peacock and John Dziobko did a program, the title of which I did not record, and Ken Shattuck showed a film of the California Western and RDC Trip on the Northwestern Pacific, which was very good.
All in all, it was a good evening of railroading and we drove back to the Red Roof Inn for the night.
3/12/2011 The three of us arose early and all went to Perko's Cafe for a very good breakfast, after which we drove back to the Scottish Rite Masonic Center for Winterail 2011.
Winterail 2011 3/12/2011
The first duty of the morning was to attend the swap meet which we did much earlier than in prior years. I bought a couple of Charlie Smiley DVDs on Northeast Railroading and a Gulf, Mobile & Ohio Railroad passenger public timetable.
At 10:00 AM, I called Let's Talk Trains then purchased a tri-tip sandwich then joined the line for the auditorium, which was opened at 11:00 AM. The shows started at noon with the pre-show announcements given by Vic and Annie Neves.
The first show was "Thru the Winter" by Craig Williams, followed by "Go West Young Man" by Dave Honan and "Western Pacific Modeller's Story" by Tommy Holt, which was entertaining with a few good laughs thrown in.
The Winterail Hall of Fame Award went to Ken Meeker. Next Ken Storey showed "Mysterious Canyons of the West" and Dan Sheets and Matthew Robbins showed "All Good Things: The Siskiyou Line Semaphores" Before the Shorts was the excellent joke and "Uncle Vic's Foamer Cleaner", which was repeated later in the evening. The Shorts were "Caifornia Here I Come" by Mike Roque and "For my Father" by Kit Courter.
After dinner it was a quick drive over to Stockton Tower for a late-running San Joaquin 704 and a Union Pacific local.
Back at the auditorium, the Photo Contest awards were announced then the first evening program was "Dodging Bullets in Search of Streetcars and Steam: Japan" by John Kichner.
Next was "Ferrocarrilies De Mexico 1962-1963" by Gordon Glattenburg. T.O. Repp then showed "The Other Washington State" which showed many interesting locations.
The final program was "John Dziobko,Jr., Why my Friends Just Call Me the Godfather" by John Dziobko.
That ended Winterail 2011 and all the shows were excellent. We returned to the Red Roof Inn and called it a night.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Winterail had problems selling tickets in Stockton
> -- because it was IN STOCKTON !!! The city
> regularly makes the TOP TEN list of dangerous
> California cities. In addition, The Scottish Rite
> Temple facility had become quite run down, with
> A/C and plumbing issues.
> Is Corvallis the answer ??? Vic & Annie think so,
> as do those who still attend. Corvallis High
> School Auditorium is " The Right Size " for
> today's crowd, and it's good to see " The NEXT
> Generation " in attendance. The Willamette Valley
> is quite nice this time of year, with many nice
> hotels & restaurants, and The Willamette & Pacific
> RR. running right through town, as well as nearby
> Albany & Eastern, and CORP, with its' new
> switching agreement for Ewe-Pee's Eugene Yard,
> should make for a full Friday of fanning. Just
> Sayin...
WINTERAIL 2016
Author: Ken Shattock (KRK)
Date: 09-18-2015 - 17:21
Hi Everybody--
In today's mail I received my letter from Vic Neves regarding Winterail-2016 in Corvallis, Oregon. Boy, do I already like the changes he and Annie have made! No sales permits for State or City unlike Stockton or California. Great!
„h Latest News
„h Traditionally, we had the event on the 2nd weekend of March. That will be no more. Because of school scheduling considerations and to be able to use optimum space at Corvallis High School, we are now scheduled for the 3rd weekend of March, Saturday, March 19th 2016. Mark your calendars for the third weekend of March for 2016.....and beyond!
Cheryl Meeker is no longer involved with the Dealers and Vendors. Vic and Annie are going to be handling EVERYTHING !! Of course, Dr. Werkema will have something to say, I'm sure! I'll be there, I won't have a long commute. But that might scare you guys away!
Take care, everybody!
Re: WINTERAIL 2016
Author: SP3878
Date: 09-19-2015 - 18:07
Your comment about Stockton is both tired and inaccurate as it applies to Winterail. Yes, Stockton is going downhill, but the area directly adjacent to the Scottish Rite Temple (where Winterail was held) is about the same as it's been for 20 years, i.e. still very decent, IMHO.
I've never thought twice about being in the parking lot at night, or parking my car on the residential streets within walking distance. That one little pocket of Stockton is probably nicer than many sections of Portland.
Re: WINTERAIL 2016
Author: Craig Tambo
Date: 09-20-2015 - 19:08
Two observations on this thread--
1. Yes, Stockton is a hellhole, and has been for a long time. (It certainly was when I hired out on the WP there in the late '70s.) However, if you've ever done any urban train-chasing, you're probably quite familiar with that kind of environment (and, no, I'm not talking about the neighborhood where Winterail took place all those years).
2. As for the financial burden of travelling to the new venue: if there's things you want to do but can't afford it, that's just the way it is. This is true whether it's a European vacation, taking the kids to Disneyland, or going to Winterail in Corvallis. It's unfortunate, but you just have to do what you can.
Re: WINTERAIL 2016
Author: Wayne Cohen
Date: 09-21-2015 - 10:09
Suggesting that Vic needs to realize the impact of the move to past attendees is beside the point. The bottom line is that he retired and he and Anne moved to Oregon. Winterail in Stockton was not going to happen. It will be in Oregon, or it will not happen.
In it's new home, Winterail will be a success, a failure, or somewhere in between. With a much nicer, slightly smaller venue, and considering the untapped potential of Pacific Northwest region attendees, I predict Winterail 16 will be closer to the success end of the continuum.
Pizza Party, Winterail 2011 and the Drive Home Part 3
by Chris Guenzler
Dave, Chris Parker and I left the Double T Ranch and made our way back out to California Highway 140 which we took across the San Joaquin River to Gustine, where we turned north onto California Highway 33. We reached Newman when we saw a southbound California Northern train approaching so made a quick U turn and readied ourselves.
Was interesting.
Ray Peacock and John Dziobko did a program, the title of which I did not record, and Ken Shattuck showed a film of the California Western and RDC Trip on the Northwestern Pacific, which was very good.
All in all, it was a good evening of railroading and we drove back to the Red Roof Inn for the night.
3/12/2011 The three of us arose early and all went to Perko's Cafe for a very good breakfast, after which we drove back to the Scottish Rite Masonic Center for Winterail 2011.
Winterail 2011 3/12/2011
The first duty of the morning was to attend the swap meet which we did much earlier than in prior years. I bought a couple of Charlie Smiley DVDs on Northeast Railroading and a Gulf, Mobile & Ohio Railroad passenger public timetable.
At 10:00 AM, I called Let's Talk Trains then purchased a tri-tip sandwich then joined the line for the auditorium, which was opened at 11:00 AM. The shows started at noon with the pre-show announcements given by Vic and Annie Neves.
The first show was "Thru the Winter" by Craig Williams, followed by "Go West Young Man" by Dave Honan and "Western Pacific Modeller's Story" by Tommy Holt, which was entertaining with a few good laughs thrown in.
The Winterail Hall of Fame Award went to Ken Meeker. Next Ken Storey showed "Mysterious Canyons of the West" and Dan Sheets and Matthew Robbins showed "All Good Things: The Siskiyou Line Semaphores" Before the Shorts was the excellent joke and "Uncle Vic's Foamer Cleaner", which was repeated later in the evening. The Shorts were "Caifornia Here I Come" by Mike Roque and "For my Father" by Kit Courter.
After dinner it was a quick drive over to Stockton Tower for a late-running San Joaquin 704 and a Union Pacific local.
Back at the auditorium, the Photo Contest awards were announced then the first evening program was "Dodging Bullets in Search of Streetcars and Steam: Japan" by John Kichner.
Next was "Ferrocarrilies De Mexico 1962-1963" by Gordon Glattenburg. T.O. Repp then showed "The Other Washington State" which showed many interesting locations.
The final program was "John Dziobko,Jr., Why my Friends Just Call Me the Godfather" by John Dziobko.
That ended Winterail 2011 and all the shows were excellent. We returned to the Red Roof Inn and called it a night.
